From: Niel J Humphreys on
"Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Colton" <newsgroups(a)uselessinfoZILCH-SPAM.org.uk> wrote in
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>
>> Yes, with hindsight I should have done that. I had problems in the early
>> days of the bidding with another German buyer who was most insistent that
>> I should post to Germany.
>>
>
> Why not just sell and ship the thing? I'm with many others on the EBay
> International boards about this. We - and that includes many UK sellers -
> simply do not understand the reluctance of UK sellers to ship to Europe,
> let alone elsewhere. Mind you, it leaves good opportunities and profit for
> us, so I won't encourage you to be less narrow.

For a lot of sellers it probably has something to do with the hassles
involved in arranging and paying for returns in the case of damage in
transit or faults that develop within the warranty period. Add to this that
there are usually plenty of customers for most things in the UK anyway so
there's no real requirement for sellers to open themselves up to the risk of
these issues if they do not wish to.


From: Fran on

"Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in
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> "Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
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>> "Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in
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>>> Well his address and phone number are on his 'ME' page along with what
>>> looks like a shitload of anally retentive instructions. Let's all order
>>> him some German skips, taxis, pizzas...... shall we? ;o)
>>>
>>
>> To coin a clich´┐Ż: you really are the leopard that doesn't change its
>> spots, eh, Niel? What a hypocrite.
>
>
> Yes, and you still do not have a sense of humour I see.
>
> Look at the little smiley at the end of my sentence? See it? Good, now you
> should know that a smiley at the end of a sentence indicates humour, a
> joke, something not to be taken seriously etc. You were doing so well
> lately Fran but I see you still need to develop a sense of humour.

I don't find xenophobia amusing. Smiley or no smiley.

And, surely after recent events, it's deeply unwise to even "jokingly"
suggest stalking someone, hm? I thought you'd learned.


From: Fran on

"Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in
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> "Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
> news:hn7oqb$l0e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
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>> "Richard Colton" <newsgroups(a)uselessinfoZILCH-SPAM.org.uk> wrote in
>> message news:5Czln.268505$kS2.79711(a)newsfe17.ams2...
>>>
>>
>>> Yes, with hindsight I should have done that. I had problems in the
>>> early days of the bidding with another German buyer who was most
>>> insistent that I should post to Germany.
>>>
>>
>> Why not just sell and ship the thing? I'm with many others on the EBay
>> International boards about this. We - and that includes many UK sellers -
>> simply do not understand the reluctance of UK sellers to ship to Europe,
>> let alone elsewhere. Mind you, it leaves good opportunities and profit
>> for us, so I won't encourage you to be less narrow.
>
> For a lot of sellers it probably has something to do with the hassles
> involved in arranging and paying for returns in the case of damage in
> transit or faults that develop within the warranty period. Add to this
> that there are usually plenty of customers for most things in the UK
> anyway so there's no real requirement for sellers to open themselves up to
> the risk of these issues if they do not wish to.
>

It's easy to make very good money out of the baseless fears of UK sellers. A
UK address to buy widgets from those who won't sell outside the UK. Then,
sell the widgets in Europe - Germany is the third biggest EBay market - and
often make three times the purchase price. Or more. Factor in a small
returns rate, tax on profits and such, and the profit is still far higher
than anything that can be achieved here. There's very little hassle involved
in returns or faults, especially if you choose your widget market.

So, I'm delighted that there are so many UK sellers who won't ship outside
the UK.

OP's widget was obviously much in demand in Germany and he's lost out, but
that's his call. I'll lay odds the buyer will resell it, though.


From: Niel J Humphreys on
"Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
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> "Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in
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>> "Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
>> news:hn7oqb$l0e$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Richard Colton" <newsgroups(a)uselessinfoZILCH-SPAM.org.uk> wrote in
>>> message news:5Czln.268505$kS2.79711(a)newsfe17.ams2...
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, with hindsight I should have done that. I had problems in the
>>>> early days of the bidding with another German buyer who was most
>>>> insistent that I should post to Germany.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not just sell and ship the thing? I'm with many others on the EBay
>>> International boards about this. We - and that includes many UK
>>> sellers - simply do not understand the reluctance of UK sellers to ship
>>> to Europe, let alone elsewhere. Mind you, it leaves good opportunities
>>> and profit for us, so I won't encourage you to be less narrow.
>>
>> For a lot of sellers it probably has something to do with the hassles
>> involved in arranging and paying for returns in the case of damage in
>> transit or faults that develop within the warranty period. Add to this
>> that there are usually plenty of customers for most things in the UK
>> anyway so there's no real requirement for sellers to open themselves up
>> to the risk of these issues if they do not wish to.
>>
>
> It's easy to make very good money out of the baseless fears of UK sellers.
> A UK address to buy widgets from those who won't sell outside the UK.
> Then, sell the widgets in Europe - Germany is the third biggest EBay
> market - and often make three times the purchase price. Or more. Factor in
> a small returns rate, tax on profits and such, and the profit is still far
> higher than anything that can be achieved here. There's very little hassle
> involved in returns or faults, especially if you choose your widget
> market.
>
> So, I'm delighted that there are so many UK sellers who won't ship outside
> the UK.


Yep same here. :)



From: Richard Colton on


"Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Colton" <newsgroups(a)uselessinfoZILCH-SPAM.org.uk> wrote in
> message news:5Czln.268505$kS2.79711(a)newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>
>> Yes, with hindsight I should have done that. I had problems in the early
>> days of the bidding with another German buyer who was most insistent that
>> I should post to Germany.
>>
>
> Why not just sell and ship the thing?

Because I don't want to. It's my prerogative where I post to, and it was
made abundantly clear to the "buyer".

> I'm with many others on the EBay International boards about this. We - and
> that includes many UK sellers - simply do not understand the reluctance of
> UK sellers to ship to Europe, let alone elsewhere.

You don't need to understand it, just accept it.

> Mind you, it leaves good opportunities and profit for us, so I won't
> encourage you to be less narrow.

Yeah, good for you etc. etc.

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