Adjustable sump pump switch assembly
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From: Too_Many_Tools on 24 Nov 2009 23:42 Going to help some friends in Arkansa this weekend install some sump pumps. I am looking for ideas for an adjustable sump pump switch setup that one can adjust for different water levels, handle two different pumps AC/DC, nonfouling with regards to algae/mold and be used to activate an alarm to notify the owners that the pump(s) are running. Let the designing begin! Thanks TMT
From: hallerb on 25 Nov 2009 18:35 On Nov 24, 11:42�pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Going to help some friends in Arkansa this weekend install some sump > pumps. > > I am looking for ideas for an adjustable sump pump switch setup that > one can adjust for different water levels, handle two different pumps > AC/DC, nonfouling with regards to algae/mold and be used to activate > an alarm to notify the owners that the pump(s) are running. > > Let the designing begin! > > Thanks > > TMT install regular pump and switch, backup battery powered pump with seperate drain line in case primary one gets plugged somehow. then install some moisture switches to let you know theres a problem. but at minumum the sump should have at least a overflow line to daylight, ideally no pump just a nice drain to daylight far away from home.......gravity is far more reliable than any pump
From: Hustlin' Hank on 26 Nov 2009 05:09 On Nov 24, 11:42�pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Going to help some friends in Arkansa this weekend install some sump > pumps. > > I am looking for ideas for an adjustable sump pump switch setup that > one can adjust for different water levels, handle two different pumps > AC/DC, nonfouling with regards to algae/mold and be used to activate > an alarm to notify the owners that the pump(s) are running. > > Let the designing begin! > > Thanks > > TMT This probably won't help, but years ago I made a alarm out of a battery operated smoke detector. I needed to know if the electric went off during the night when I was sleeping. I didn't have a generator that would automaticlly kick on, nor a battery backup for the sump pump. Anyway, I bought a 120v relay from Radio shack and hooked it up to the smoke detector. It would allow the smoke detector to operate normally when the electrci was on, but if the electric went off it would activate the alarm. Really simple and inexpensive to do. I am sure something like this could be reversed and wired into the pump to show a light when pump starts running. Hank
From: Steve W. on 26 Nov 2009 13:28 Hustlin' Hank wrote: > On Nov 24, 11:42�pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Going to help some friends in Arkansa this weekend install some sump >> pumps. >> >> I am looking for ideas for an adjustable sump pump switch setup that >> one can adjust for different water levels, handle two different pumps >> AC/DC, nonfouling with regards to algae/mold and be used to activate >> an alarm to notify the owners that the pump(s) are running. >> >> Let the designing begin! >> >> Thanks >> >> TMT > > This probably won't help, but years ago I made a alarm out of a > battery operated smoke detector. I needed to know if the electric went > off during the night when I was sleeping. I didn't have a generator > that would automaticlly kick on, nor a battery backup for the sump > pump. > > Anyway, I bought a 120v relay from Radio shack and hooked it up to the > smoke detector. It would allow the smoke detector to operate normally > when the electrci was on, but if the electric went off it would > activate the alarm. Really simple and inexpensive to do. > > I am sure something like this could be reversed and wired into the > pump to show a light when pump starts running. > > Hank The old float switches on the stand type sump pumps meets most of the requirements. -- Steve W.
From: Bruce L. Bergman on 28 Nov 2009 12:37 On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:42:31 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Going to help some friends in Arkansa this weekend install some sump >pumps. > >I am looking for ideas for an adjustable sump pump switch setup that >one can adjust for different water levels, handle two different pumps >AC/DC, nonfouling with regards to algae/mold and be used to activate >an alarm to notify the owners that the pump(s) are running. > >Let the designing begin! It's already designed, and available pre-built or custom-built from dozens of places - it's called a Duplex Pump Control Panel, or you can get one for three pumps called... You guessed it, Triplex. The good ones have an alternator, so Pump One is lead the first time it starts, and Pump Two is lead the next time - spreads the wear around, so the lag pump won't be frozen up from disuse and rust right when the lead pump wears out from constant running... They have seperate starters or contactors for the pumps, and all the relays and switches and pilot lights you need, and the alarm sounder and light for the high water alarm. If your pumps are the larger 5-HP and up, they usually have Overheat sensors or Water Seal Failure sensor switches, they put those alarm circuits in the pump panel. Hourmeters to monitor each pump's life, etc. 4 float switches on a Duplex - All Off, Lead On, Lag On, and High Water Alarm. When you have a big pump pit they use the standard 10-amp pear-shaped floats on cords, and strap them to a float stick where they won't get tangled. For a tiny pit like in a basement, you might want to use the individual miniature hinged float switches like you put through the side of a tank, and make brackets to hold them to the float stick. Or if you expect lots of debris, you mount the miniature style switches into the side of a large chunk of pipe (roughly 2" ID) so the float ends are totally shielded, and screen the top and bottom and a few other water inlet holes and vents - keep the large chunks outside of the pipe. They aren't cheap, but reliable usually isn't. --<< Bruce >>--
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