From: For example: John Smith on
Fran wrote:
> "Fat Sam" <samandjanet(a)knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:HPidnUFx8IEuAknbnZ2dnUVZ8sqjnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>
>> It's got nothing to do with what country you're in.
>> It's got everything to do with whether you understand basic English.
>> Asian means "From Asia", plain and simple.
>
> Um. OK, a question. I listen to Sunrise Radio. It advertises itself as
> aiming at the "Asian Community". However, what they broadcast is
> aimed at those originating at some point from the Indian sub
> continent including Pakistan and Bangladesh. So, are we all wrong to
> use the term Asian?
> I agree that semantically Asian strictly refers to that emanating
> from the continent of Asia. However, common usage and derivation in
> the UK means that it generally refers to those from the sub continent.
>
> Wiki seems to agree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_people As
> does the Oxford:
>
> http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dev_dict&field-12668446=asian&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact&sortorder=score%2Cname
>
> Nothing, my friend, is ever as plain and simple as it might seem.
> Especially when it comes to the glory that is the many stranded
> English language in all its hundreds of forms. Clarity and
> explanation is all. Some assumed that Asian meant Indian or whatever.
> Others that it meant Chinese. The use of terms with many meanings can
> be a dangerous thing.

Thankyou, Fran.

Should shut the ignorant cnuts up for a while.

But in all honesty, I don't think ANYONE is likely to be THAT ignorant -
they're just taking issue over whatever they can.


From: Fat Sam on
For example: John Smith wrote:
> Fran wrote:
>> "Fat Sam" <samandjanet(a)knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:HPidnUFx8IEuAknbnZ2dnUVZ8sqjnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>
>>> It's got nothing to do with what country you're in.
>>> It's got everything to do with whether you understand basic English.
>>> Asian means "From Asia", plain and simple.
>>
>> Um. OK, a question. I listen to Sunrise Radio. It advertises itself
>> as aiming at the "Asian Community". However, what they broadcast is
>> aimed at those originating at some point from the Indian sub
>> continent including Pakistan and Bangladesh. So, are we all wrong to
>> use the term Asian?
>> I agree that semantically Asian strictly refers to that emanating
>> from the continent of Asia. However, common usage and derivation in
>> the UK means that it generally refers to those from the sub
>> continent. Wiki seems to agree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_people
>> As
>> does the Oxford:
>>
>> http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dev_dict&field-12668446=asian&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact&sortorder=score%2Cname
>>
>> Nothing, my friend, is ever as plain and simple as it might seem.
>> Especially when it comes to the glory that is the many stranded
>> English language in all its hundreds of forms. Clarity and
>> explanation is all. Some assumed that Asian meant Indian or whatever.
>> Others that it meant Chinese. The use of terms with many meanings can
>> be a dangerous thing.
>
> Thankyou, Fran.
>
> Should shut the ignorant cnuts up for a while.

Your choice of words creates a linguistic paradox.
Only those who would choose to use that word in a public place, miss-spelled
or otherwise, can really be described by it.
Ironic really.
Also Ironic that you use that word to describe people who are ignorant.


From: Fat Sam on
For example: John Smith wrote:
> Fat Sam wrote:
>> For example: John Smith wrote:
>>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>>> For example: John Smith wrote:
>>>>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>>>>> For example: John Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> Essex Laptops - Andy Usher wrote:
>>>>>>>> "For example: John Smith" <qall-tisc(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:zgSAi.16468$ka7.13621(a)newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>>>>>> I've just bought a supposedly new router on eBay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When it arrived, it was in a tattered box and didn't work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the fourth transaction (of a total of 190) I've done
>>>>>>>>> with an Asian-named seller and the fourth time I've been
>>>>>>>>> ripped off. The other three were on mobile phones - one (a
>>>>>>>>> brand new phone - about 200 quid) was never sent (got a
>>>>>>>>> refund after 3 months) and the other two just didn't work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems there really is no smoke without fire.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Loathsome cnuts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you not happy 3 times allready why you chance it again. or
>>>>>>>> are you saying you have used Asian sellers 190 times before ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>> I've always preferred not to give credence to racial stereotypes
>>>>>>> - but 4 out of 4 makes it difficult to ignore.
>>>>>>> There won't be a fifth time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never had a good experience buying from Chinese or Honk Kong
>>>>>> sellers. I avoid them now as a rule.
>>>>>
>>>>> Er ... no.
>>>>> Asian in the UK, means Indian/Pakistani not the Far East.
>>>>> And they were UK-based.
>>>>
>>>> Er ... no.
>>>> Asian means "From Asia".
>>>>
>>>> Asia is the green indicated area on this map.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationAsia.png
>>>>
>>>> Included in that green area is China.
>>>
>>> China in Asia ?
>>> No sh*t !
>>> In the UK, Asian means Indian/Pakistani.
>>> In the USA, it means Oriental not Indian/Pakistani.
>>
>> It's got nothing to do with what country you're in.
>> It's got everything to do with whether you understand basic English.
>
> I think that's maybe all you DO understand.
> You're clearly neither from Britain or the States.
> And as far as I'm concerned, you're going back from whence you came
> .... the sh*tter.
>
> SPLOSH !

Come back when you're able to formulate a reasoned and intelligent argument.
Half cocked theories just don't cut it.


From: For example: John Smith on
Fat Sam wrote:
> For example: John Smith wrote:
>> Fran wrote:
>>> "Fat Sam" <samandjanet(a)knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:HPidnUFx8IEuAknbnZ2dnUVZ8sqjnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>>
>>>> It's got nothing to do with what country you're in.
>>>> It's got everything to do with whether you understand basic
>>>> English. Asian means "From Asia", plain and simple.
>>>
>>> Um. OK, a question. I listen to Sunrise Radio. It advertises itself
>>> as aiming at the "Asian Community". However, what they broadcast is
>>> aimed at those originating at some point from the Indian sub
>>> continent including Pakistan and Bangladesh. So, are we all wrong to
>>> use the term Asian?
>>> I agree that semantically Asian strictly refers to that emanating
>>> from the continent of Asia. However, common usage and derivation in
>>> the UK means that it generally refers to those from the sub
>>> continent. Wiki seems to agree:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_people As
>>> does the Oxford:
>>>
>>> http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dev_dict&field-12668446=asian&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact&sortorder=score%2Cname
>>>
>>> Nothing, my friend, is ever as plain and simple as it might seem.
>>> Especially when it comes to the glory that is the many stranded
>>> English language in all its hundreds of forms. Clarity and
>>> explanation is all. Some assumed that Asian meant Indian or
>>> whatever. Others that it meant Chinese. The use of terms with many
>>> meanings can be a dangerous thing.
>>
>> Thankyou, Fran.
>>
>> Should shut the ignorant cnuts up for a while.
>
> Your choice of words creates a linguistic paradox.
> Only those who would choose to use that word in a public place,
> miss-spelled or otherwise, can really be described by it.
> Ironic really.
> Also Ironic that you use that word to describe people who are
> ignorant.

Do the words 'bad' and 'loser' mean anything to you ?


From: Fat Sam on
Fran wrote:
> "Fat Sam" <samandjanet(a)knox.orangehome.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:HPidnUFx8IEuAknbnZ2dnUVZ8sqjnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>
>> It's got nothing to do with what country you're in.
>> It's got everything to do with whether you understand basic English.
>> Asian means "From Asia", plain and simple.
>
> Um. OK, a question. I listen to Sunrise Radio. It advertises itself as
> aiming at the "Asian Community". However, what they broadcast is
> aimed at those originating at some point from the Indian sub
> continent including Pakistan and Bangladesh. So, are we all wrong to
> use the term Asian?

You're muddying the waters here.
You are referring to the Asian community that lives in Britain, as that is
where the station broadcasts.
The reason it aims mainly at people from the Indian sub-continent is because
they make up the vast majority of Asian people living in this country.

However, the original post and my comment was about buying items on Ebay
from Asian sellers.
I took this to mean sellers who are located in Asia, as Ebay is a wordwide
company.
So in that respect, it is perfectly accurate to refer to sellers in China,
Korea, Japan, and yes, even Russia as being Asian.

> I agree that semantically Asian strictly refers to that emanating
> from the continent of Asia. However, common usage and derivation in
> the UK means that it generally refers to those from the sub continent.

Only when referring to the UK Asian community.
When referring to the Worldwide Asian community, your definition becomes
hopelessly inadequate.


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