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From: Micky DuPree on 14 Mar 2010 09:37
Jax <IlGreven(a)hotmail.com> writes:

: On Mar 13, 3:38=A0pm, Gerry <every...(a)sunrise.net> wrote:

:: In article
:: <509f2405-72b5-402d-87cc-ef159c020...(a)x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
:: Richard Fangnail <richardfangn...(a)excite.com> wrote:

::: Basic cable in LA and SF both have WGN and Ion, why would that be?
::
:: ION (formerly PAX) likely on for the religious requirement.
:
: Wait, there's a federal and or state-mandated religious requirement?
: Is that not an Establishment Clause violation?

I don't think it's a religious requirement. In the two cases I'm
personally familiar with, there were small local ION broadcast stations,
so if the cable company is required to carry all the local broadcast
stations, the local ION station would be included.

I'm at a loss to explain the presence of WGN in Los Angeles and San
Francisco under the specified parameters, however.

-Micky

From: lugnut on 14 Mar 2010 13:10
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:48:48 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk(a)chinet.com> wrote:

>Gerry <everyday(a)sunrise.net> wrote:
>>Richard Fangnail <richardfangnail(a)excite.com> wrote:
>

>
>>ION (formerly PAX) likely on for the religious requirement.
>
>Wrong, wrong, wrong. To maintain a license, a broadcaster had to demonstrate
>some sort of public or community use, I cannot remember the term. They
>did this with news shows and public affairs shows. For some reason, making
>free time available to a religious broadcaster was considered to be public
>use.
>
>This regulation went away decades ago.
>
>It never, ever, ever applied to cable. Note that religious programming on
>cable is all brokered, that is, the minister buys time. And that's mostly
>true of religious programs on broadcast stations, except for the handful
>of shows remaining years after the old regulation was lifted.
>
>The religious ministry that owns ION/Pax licenses is the ultimate example
>of brokered time. They bought the licenses!

Does ION really even show religious programming anymore? It seems
like they've steadily moved away from it over the years to attempt to
become a "normal" network, lots of reruns of network shows and movies.
Right now as I'm posting it looks like they're showing the Qubo
cartoon block that runs (or used to) on NBC and tonight they're
showing the Adam Sandler comedy "I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry"



-lugnut
From: Adam H. Kerman on 14 Mar 2010 13:21
Micky DuPree <MDuPree(a)theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:

>I'm at a loss to explain the presence of WGN in Los Angeles and San
>Francisco under the specified parameters, however.

There's no retransmission consent as far as I know for WGN's national feed!
From: Bill on 14 Mar 2010 22:09
On 3/14/2010 1:21 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Micky DuPree<MDuPree(a)theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>
>> I'm at a loss to explain the presence of WGN in Los Angeles and San
>> Francisco under the specified parameters, however.
>
> There's no retransmission consent as far as I know for WGN's national feed!

As someone else suggested, it is likely that they have it at a low
channel position and the filter put in place to restrict non-basic
channels doesn't block it.

Bill
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