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From: James on 3 Jan 2008 19:31
I was looking for some heating for hom and saw some halogen heaters in argos
on sale and wondered if they are any good for heating a living room or
bedroom ?

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150200/Trail/searchtext%3EHALOGEN+HEATER.htm

or a oil filled one from argos ?

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150475/Trail/searchtext%3EOIL+FILLED+HEATER.htm

are these expensive to run ?

Thanks


From: Palindrome on 3 Jan 2008 20:13
James wrote:
> I was looking for some heating for hom and saw some halogen heaters in argos
> on sale and wondered if they are any good for heating a living room or
> bedroom ?
>
> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150200/Trail/searchtext%3EHALOGEN+HEATER.htm
>
> or a oil filled one from argos ?
>
> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150475/Trail/searchtext%3EOIL+FILLED+HEATER.htm
>
> are these expensive to run ?
>
I use these halogen heaters a lot.. They are ideal for heating people
that are sitting still and can have the heat pointed at them. They
provide almost instant warmth and are very efficient - using a fraction
of the power that heating the whole room to a "reasonable" temperature
would use.

The oil-filled ones heat the whole room. They can take tens of minutes
to produce reasonable warmth - but that warmth will be distributed
around the whole room.

The elements in the halogen heater are under greater stress and an
oil-fired heater should have a much longer life without needing
replacement parts. Also, halogen heaters could heat-damage anything too
close, in front of them.. including children and adults asleep or unable
to move away. So, whilst a 1.5kW halogen heater could be used to provide
the same heat as a 1.5kW oil-filled one, the latter should have a longer
life.

You can buy halogen heaters like these for far less than the Argos
price. I paid <12GBP for mine.

If you are on mains gas - that should be a cheaper form of heating than
electricity.

I've found that one halogen heater on 400W is enough to keep one person
warm. YMMV. If that is run for 12 hours a day, that is about 35p a
day... pretty inexpensive.

Whole room heating depends very much on the room. However, it is going
to be a lot more expensive than halogen - because the whole room is
warm, not just those sat in it. Plus it needs to come on ages before the
room is used and will remain warm for some time after it is switched
off. I would suspect that it would need to be on 20 hours a day and is
going to cost almost 3GBP a day to run.

One compromise is to run the central heating at quite a low setting -
just enough to not make a trip to the loo akin to an ascent of Everest -
and top up the heating with halogen in places where people aren't active
but are sitting still, eg living room. If you don't have central
heating, then oil-filled heaters set to a low setting, plus halogens to
heat people sat doing not a lot, could be worth considering.

I must confess to having and using a fan heater in the bathroom, on a
timer. It warms the room for an hour in the morning and an hour at night
and comes on 10 minutes before I venture in..

--
Sue
From: Dave Plowman (News) on 3 Jan 2008 20:10
In article <5tCdnePr2rr94-DanZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d(a)bt.com>,
James <James(a)here.com> wrote:
> I was looking for some heating for hom and saw some halogen heaters in
> argos on sale and wondered if they are any good for heating a living
> room or bedroom ?

Halogen heaters are best at heating the person rather than the room. They
are radiant types.

> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150200/Trail/searchtext%3EHALOGEN+HEATER.htm

> or a oil filled one from argos ?

> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150475/Trail/searchtext%3EOIL+FILLED+HEATER.htm

The best and quickest space heater is a fan assisted type.

> are these expensive to run ?

All electric heating is expensive. Storage types using off peak prices are
the cheapest.

--
*They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

Dave Plowman dave(a)davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
From: Palindrome on 3 Jan 2008 20:33
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <5tCdnePr2rr94-DanZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d(a)bt.com>,
> James <James(a)here.com> wrote:
>> I was looking for some heating for hom and saw some halogen heaters in
>> argos on sale and wondered if they are any good for heating a living
>> room or bedroom ?
>
> Halogen heaters are best at heating the person rather than the room. They
> are radiant types.
>
>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150200/Trail/searchtext%3EHALOGEN+HEATER.htm
>
>> or a oil filled one from argos ?
>
>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150475/Trail/searchtext%3EOIL+FILLED+HEATER.htm
>
> The best and quickest space heater is a fan assisted type.
>
>> are these expensive to run ?
>
> All electric heating is expensive. Storage types using off peak prices are
> the cheapest.
>

Whilst I can agree with your previous paragraphs, without reservation -
the last line isn't quite as clear-cut. It really does depend on the
house and how it is used.

As an example, if the house is empty most of the day, with people
arriving back at uncertain times, or not coming back that day at all -
then "instant heat" fan heaters and radiant heaters on a standard tariff
can work out a lot cheaper than storage heaters.

Also, if a great deal of daytime electricity has to be used (eg cooking,
clothes washing and drying, etc) the loss due to the very high peak-rate
tariff, compared to a standard tariff, can more than overcome the
savings of heating on the off-peak tariff.


--
Sue


From: James on 4 Jan 2008 06:04

"Palindrome" <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
news:PKffj.209584$ZO3.161229(a)fe02.news.easynews.com...
> James wrote:
>> I was looking for some heating for hom and saw some halogen heaters in
>> argos on sale and wondered if they are any good for heating a living room
>> or bedroom ?
>>
>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150200/Trail/searchtext%3EHALOGEN+HEATER.htm
>>
>> or a oil filled one from argos ?
>>
>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4150475/Trail/searchtext%3EOIL+FILLED+HEATER.htm
>>
>> are these expensive to run ?
>>
> I use these halogen heaters a lot.. They are ideal for heating people that
> are sitting still and can have the heat pointed at them. They provide
> almost instant warmth and are very efficient - using a fraction of the
> power that heating the whole room to a "reasonable" temperature would use.
>
> The oil-filled ones heat the whole room. They can take tens of minutes to
> produce reasonable warmth - but that warmth will be distributed around the
> whole room.
>
> The elements in the halogen heater are under greater stress and an
> oil-fired heater should have a much longer life without needing
> replacement parts. Also, halogen heaters could heat-damage anything too
> close, in front of them.. including children and adults asleep or unable
> to move away. So, whilst a 1.5kW halogen heater could be used to provide
> the same heat as a 1.5kW oil-filled one, the latter should have a longer
> life.
>
> You can buy halogen heaters like these for far less than the Argos price.
> I paid <12GBP for mine.
>
> If you are on mains gas - that should be a cheaper form of heating than
> electricity.
>
> I've found that one halogen heater on 400W is enough to keep one person
> warm. YMMV. If that is run for 12 hours a day, that is about 35p a day...
> pretty inexpensive.
>
> Whole room heating depends very much on the room. However, it is going to
> be a lot more expensive than halogen - because the whole room is warm, not
> just those sat in it. Plus it needs to come on ages before the room is
> used and will remain warm for some time after it is switched off. I would
> suspect that it would need to be on 20 hours a day and is going to cost
> almost 3GBP a day to run.
>
> One compromise is to run the central heating at quite a low setting - just
> enough to not make a trip to the loo akin to an ascent of Everest - and
> top up the heating with halogen in places where people aren't active but
> are sitting still, eg living room. If you don't have central heating,
> then oil-filled heaters set to a low setting, plus halogens to heat people
> sat doing not a lot, could be worth considering.
>
> I must confess to having and using a fan heater in the bathroom, on a
> timer. It warms the room for an hour in the morning and an hour at night
> and comes on 10 minutes before I venture in..
>
>

Hi Sue,

That proved an interesting and usefull read. I'll think I'll get 2
reasonable priced heaters a halogen and oil filled and give your method a
good which sounds as though it will be efficient and cost effective for me
:)

Thank you all :)


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