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"Usenet Nutter" <individualnet(a)takeoutmyteethgmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:46:46 -0000, "Dr Zoidberg"
> <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:
>
>><crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
>>news:hc1kkk$all$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>> petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> What does the group think about blocking a buyer from further bidding
>>>> yet not cancelling their iniatial bid?
>>>
>>> No point in cancelling the initial bid if there were already higher bids
>>> from other buyers.
>>>
>>Are you sure?
>>If an item starts at �10 , bidder A bids �20 and bidder B bids �30....
>>
>>Wouldn't the highest bid drop back to �10?
>
> Your example cites 2 different bidders so presumably you mean A is the
> "banned" bidder so your scenario is correct but might there not be
> more than 2 bids in the particular case cited by the OP. ...I'm not
> sure how removing the banned bidders bids would affect the remaining
> bids in that case ...would they not just stay as they are as
> presumably that's what the bidders were preared to pay .

If there are several bids and they've gone high enough, then the first bid
won't matter.

Let's see: BB bids 10. Bidder 2 bids 20, 3 bids 40, so the maximum bid is
whatever the increment is from 20. In that instance, the first one by the
blocked bidder doesn't matter. That's probably clear as mud.


From: Toby on
"Usenet Nutter" <individualnet(a)takeoutmyteethgmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:46:46 -0000, "Dr Zoidberg"
> <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:
>
>><crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
>>news:hc1kkk$all$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>> petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> What does the group think about blocking a buyer from further bidding
>>>> yet not cancelling their iniatial bid?
>>>
>>> No point in cancelling the initial bid if there were already higher bids
>>> from other buyers.
>>>
>>Are you sure?
>>If an item starts at �10 , bidder A bids �20 and bidder B bids �30....
>>
>>Wouldn't the highest bid drop back to �10?
>
> Your example cites 2 different bidders so presumably you mean A is the
> "banned" bidder so your scenario is correct but might there not be
> more than 2 bids in the particular case cited by the OP. ...I'm not
> sure how removing the banned bidders bids would affect the remaining
> bids in that case ...would they not just stay as they are as
> presumably that's what the bidders were preared to pay .

Either a bidder is part of the auction or not. using a blocked bidder to
keep the price up is **TOTALLY WRONG**. Of course if two other bidders have
exceeded the blocked bidders bid before you decide to block them then there
would be no point cancelling the bid as that's just pointless effort.

We need to remember that although a bidder may have put a highish bid in
that only means they are willing to pay this amount but would prefer to get
it cheaper. It is an auction after all so they should only pay the amount
above a reserve that the next active bidder is willing to pay.

Blocking a bidder stops them being active.

Toby




From: Kráftéé on
"Toby" <Toby(a)nomail.com> wrote in message
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> "Usenet Nutter" <individualnet(a)takeoutmyteethgmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:fps8e55tnci1vv254q5co86nkv0hvcjf8i(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:46:46 -0000, "Dr Zoidberg"
>> <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>><crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
>>>news:hc1kkk$all$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>> petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> What does the group think about blocking a buyer from further
>>>>> bidding
>>>>> yet not cancelling their iniatial bid?
>>>>
>>>> No point in cancelling the initial bid if there were already
>>>> higher bids
>>>> from other buyers.
>>>>
>>>Are you sure?
>>>If an item starts at �10 , bidder A bids �20 and bidder B bids
>>>�30....
>>>
>>>Wouldn't the highest bid drop back to �10?
>>
>> Your example cites 2 different bidders so presumably you mean A is
>> the
>> "banned" bidder so your scenario is correct but might there not be
>> more than 2 bids in the particular case cited by the OP. ...I'm not
>> sure how removing the banned bidders bids would affect the
>> remaining
>> bids in that case ...would they not just stay as they are as
>> presumably that's what the bidders were preared to pay .
>
> Either a bidder is part of the auction or not. using a blocked
> bidder to
> keep the price up is **TOTALLY WRONG**. Of course if two other
> bidders have
> exceeded the blocked bidders bid before you decide to block them
> then there
> would be no point cancelling the bid as that's just pointless
> effort.
>
> We need to remember that although a bidder may have put a highish
> bid in
> that only means they are willing to pay this amount but would prefer
> to get
> it cheaper. It is an auction after all so they should only pay the
> amount
> above a reserve that the next active bidder is willing to pay.
>
> Blocking a bidder stops them being active.
>

Thought that was the whole point about blocking a bidder?

As for your rational that if they have been outbid by a couple of
others so there is no need to block, I'm afraid you are mistaken as
that bidder could come back and place a winning bid at anytime.

If the OP needs to block then they should do so and take whatever pain
results, including a lower selling price.

From: Toby on
"Kr�ft��" <kr�ft��@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
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> "Toby" <Toby(a)nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pv2dncAzs8VmHXnXnZ2dnUVZ8gGdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>> "Usenet Nutter" <individualnet(a)takeoutmyteethgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fps8e55tnci1vv254q5co86nkv0hvcjf8i(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:46:46 -0000, "Dr Zoidberg"
>>> <AlexNOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>><crn(a)NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:hc1kkk$all$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>>> petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What does the group think about blocking a buyer from further bidding
>>>>>> yet not cancelling their iniatial bid?
>>>>>
>>>>> No point in cancelling the initial bid if there were already higher
>>>>> bids
>>>>> from other buyers.
>>>>>
>>>>Are you sure?
>>>>If an item starts at �10 , bidder A bids �20 and bidder B bids �30....
>>>>
>>>>Wouldn't the highest bid drop back to �10?
>>>
>>> Your example cites 2 different bidders so presumably you mean A is the
>>> "banned" bidder so your scenario is correct but might there not be
>>> more than 2 bids in the particular case cited by the OP. ...I'm not
>>> sure how removing the banned bidders bids would affect the remaining
>>> bids in that case ...would they not just stay as they are as
>>> presumably that's what the bidders were preared to pay .
>>
>> Either a bidder is part of the auction or not. using a blocked bidder to
>> keep the price up is **TOTALLY WRONG**. Of course if two other bidders
>> have
>> exceeded the blocked bidders bid before you decide to block them then
>> there
>> would be no point cancelling the bid as that's just pointless effort.
>>
>> We need to remember that although a bidder may have put a highish bid in
>> that only means they are willing to pay this amount but would prefer to
>> get
>> it cheaper. It is an auction after all so they should only pay the amount
>> above a reserve that the next active bidder is willing to pay.
>>
>> Blocking a bidder stops them being active.
>>
>
> Thought that was the whole point about blocking a bidder?
>
> As for your rational that if they have been outbid by a couple of others
> so there is no need to block, I'm afraid you are mistaken as that bidder
> could come back and place a winning bid at anytime.
>
> If the OP needs to block then they should do so and take whatever pain
> results, including a lower selling price.
Kraftee

I think you misread my post. I never said they shouldn't block the bidder.

Toby


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