From: DanH on
On Jul 23, 10:52 am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:
> In article <Qbadndq5w_FkCtrRnZ2dnUVZ_sGdn...(a)posted.hiwaay2>, ghes...(a)hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
> >In article <1c2405e1-6786-4e8b-a2c9-1e22ea1af...(a)q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> >Timur Tabi  <ti...(a)tabi.org> wrote:
> >>On Jul 21, 1:40 am, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" <atlas-
> >>bug...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> >>> FWIW CFLs are not recommended for use in humid environments
>
> >>Well, the CF bulb in the shower has worked reliably for years.  It's
> >>just the ones over the mirror that don't.  They're a different brand
> >>and style, but I was hoping someone here would be able to explain the
> >>odd behavior I'm seeing.
>
> >>Something similar also happens in my garage, except instead of
> >>flashing, the light just doesn't turn on.
>
> >>I never had any problems with my incandescent bulbs.
>
> >You might check the sockets for corrosion, check the voltage in the
> >sockets, and try swapping out half the bulbs with incandescents.
>
> >All fluorescents pull a lot of current briefly when turning on. If your
> >wiring has bad connections, small wire, or any other problem causing
> >resistace, the eight hitting at once could be causing a significant
> >voltage drop, which could interfere with the starting circuit.
>
> >Checking the voltage with one bulb out when the switch is flipped
> >might let you see the drop, if you're using an analog meter.
>
> Also try 7 CFL and one incandecent. Switch may be bad.
>
> greg

What GregS said. The switching transient from 7 CFLs is causing them
to get confused. One incandescent in the string will "stabilize" the
voltage/current enough to allow them to light reliably.

(And it goes without saying that a dimmer should not be used on this
circuit, right?)
From: GregS on
In article <d0db30ce-fcf7-49ae-8da2-a435769874d3(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, DanH <jvmguru(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 23, 10:52=A0am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:
>> In article <Qbadndq5w_FkCtrRnZ2dnUVZ_sGdn...(a)posted.hiwaay2>, ghes...(a)hiw=
>aay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>> >In article <1c2405e1-6786-4e8b-a2c9-1e22ea1af...(a)q12g2000yqj.googlegroup=
>s.com>,
>> >Timur Tabi =A0<ti...(a)tabi.org> wrote:
>> >>On Jul 21, 1:40=A0am, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" <atlas-
>> >>bug...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >>> FWIW CFLs are not recommended for use in humid environments
>>
>> >>Well, the CF bulb in the shower has worked reliably for years. =A0It's
>> >>just the ones over the mirror that don't. =A0They're a different brand
>> >>and style, but I was hoping someone here would be able to explain the
>> >>odd behavior I'm seeing.
>>
>> >>Something similar also happens in my garage, except instead of
>> >>flashing, the light just doesn't turn on.
>>
>> >>I never had any problems with my incandescent bulbs.
>>
>> >You might check the sockets for corrosion, check the voltage in the
>> >sockets, and try swapping out half the bulbs with incandescents.
>>
>> >All fluorescents pull a lot of current briefly when turning on. If your
>> >wiring has bad connections, small wire, or any other problem causing
>> >resistace, the eight hitting at once could be causing a significant
>> >voltage drop, which could interfere with the starting circuit.
>>
>> >Checking the voltage with one bulb out when the switch is flipped
>> >might let you see the drop, if you're using an analog meter.
>>
>> Also try 7 CFL and one incandecent. Switch may be bad.
>>
>> greg
>
>What GregS said. The switching transient from 7 CFLs is causing them
>to get confused. One incandescent in the string will "stabilize" the
>voltage/current enough to allow them to light reliably.
>
>(And it goes without saying that a dimmer should not be used on this
>circuit, right?)

I tried 3 FEITS on kitchen dimmer. Had big problem, and I think
the biggest problem is FEIT brand. I have never before tried more than
one dimmable CFL on a dimmer. They must be dimmable of course.

Stay away from FEIT's.

greg
From: Timur Tabi on
On Jul 23, 10:52 am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:

> Also try 7 CFL and one incandecent. Switch may be bad.

Thanks for the idea. Unfortunately, it didn't help.

I'll try disassembling the light fixture and cleaning/upgrading the
wires.