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From: DanH on 23 Jul 2010 15:39 On Jul 23, 10:52 am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: > In article <Qbadndq5w_FkCtrRnZ2dnUVZ_sGdn...(a)posted.hiwaay2>, ghes...(a)hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote: > >In article <1c2405e1-6786-4e8b-a2c9-1e22ea1af...(a)q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, > >Timur Tabi <ti...(a)tabi.org> wrote: > >>On Jul 21, 1:40 am, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" <atlas- > >>bug...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > >>> FWIW CFLs are not recommended for use in humid environments > > >>Well, the CF bulb in the shower has worked reliably for years. It's > >>just the ones over the mirror that don't. They're a different brand > >>and style, but I was hoping someone here would be able to explain the > >>odd behavior I'm seeing. > > >>Something similar also happens in my garage, except instead of > >>flashing, the light just doesn't turn on. > > >>I never had any problems with my incandescent bulbs. > > >You might check the sockets for corrosion, check the voltage in the > >sockets, and try swapping out half the bulbs with incandescents. > > >All fluorescents pull a lot of current briefly when turning on. If your > >wiring has bad connections, small wire, or any other problem causing > >resistace, the eight hitting at once could be causing a significant > >voltage drop, which could interfere with the starting circuit. > > >Checking the voltage with one bulb out when the switch is flipped > >might let you see the drop, if you're using an analog meter. > > Also try 7 CFL and one incandecent. Switch may be bad. > > greg What GregS said. The switching transient from 7 CFLs is causing them to get confused. One incandescent in the string will "stabilize" the voltage/current enough to allow them to light reliably. (And it goes without saying that a dimmer should not be used on this circuit, right?)
From: GregS on 26 Jul 2010 09:39 In article <d0db30ce-fcf7-49ae-8da2-a435769874d3(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, DanH <jvmguru(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 23, 10:52=A0am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: >> In article <Qbadndq5w_FkCtrRnZ2dnUVZ_sGdn...(a)posted.hiwaay2>, ghes...(a)hiw= >aay.net (Gary Heston) wrote: >> >In article <1c2405e1-6786-4e8b-a2c9-1e22ea1af...(a)q12g2000yqj.googlegroup= >s.com>, >> >Timur Tabi =A0<ti...(a)tabi.org> wrote: >> >>On Jul 21, 1:40=A0am, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" <atlas- >> >>bug...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >> >>> FWIW CFLs are not recommended for use in humid environments >> >> >>Well, the CF bulb in the shower has worked reliably for years. =A0It's >> >>just the ones over the mirror that don't. =A0They're a different brand >> >>and style, but I was hoping someone here would be able to explain the >> >>odd behavior I'm seeing. >> >> >>Something similar also happens in my garage, except instead of >> >>flashing, the light just doesn't turn on. >> >> >>I never had any problems with my incandescent bulbs. >> >> >You might check the sockets for corrosion, check the voltage in the >> >sockets, and try swapping out half the bulbs with incandescents. >> >> >All fluorescents pull a lot of current briefly when turning on. If your >> >wiring has bad connections, small wire, or any other problem causing >> >resistace, the eight hitting at once could be causing a significant >> >voltage drop, which could interfere with the starting circuit. >> >> >Checking the voltage with one bulb out when the switch is flipped >> >might let you see the drop, if you're using an analog meter. >> >> Also try 7 CFL and one incandecent. Switch may be bad. >> >> greg > >What GregS said. The switching transient from 7 CFLs is causing them >to get confused. One incandescent in the string will "stabilize" the >voltage/current enough to allow them to light reliably. > >(And it goes without saying that a dimmer should not be used on this >circuit, right?) I tried 3 FEITS on kitchen dimmer. Had big problem, and I think the biggest problem is FEIT brand. I have never before tried more than one dimmable CFL on a dimmer. They must be dimmable of course. Stay away from FEIT's. greg
From: Timur Tabi on 27 Jul 2010 09:11 On Jul 23, 10:52 am, zekfr...(a)zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote: > Also try 7 CFL and one incandecent. Switch may be bad. Thanks for the idea. Unfortunately, it didn't help. I'll try disassembling the light fixture and cleaning/upgrading the wires.
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