From: michael adams on

"Bob Hardwell" <Bob.Hardwell(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:aAxepSAQMFfIFwwU(a)lydiard.plus.com...
> Has anyone else suffered sellers not leaving feedback lately?
>
> I have bought 3 items in the last 10 days and none of the sellers have
> left feedback despite my sending an e-mail asking for feedback.

As a buyer why are you bothered about feedback ? Unless you attract a lot
of negs and end up automatically getting blocked, the total number or percentage
of positives you get, makes no difference to your ability to bid on items.

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>
> Although there are no rules governing feedback I have always believed
> that the seller should leave feedback first upon receipt of the payment.

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Sellers can't leave negs now in any case. But formerly if a seller left
positive feedback on receipt of the payment, they had no way of knowing
if the buyer was going to turn out to be totally unreasonable or not. For
instance by negging them as a result of a delay in the post which was
beyond the sellers control, without contacting them first.
Or by being totaly unreasonable in other ways. If they've already
left postive feedback for the buyer, then they're stuffed.

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> The buyer should then leave feedback on receipt of the item.
>
> Is this a sign of the times and the new policy of preventing seller from
> responding with negative feedback?

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Depending on how busy they are, many sellers may only catch up on their
feedback once a week. Or fortnight even. You say you bought the items
in the last ten days and so by the time you recieved them and left feedback
yourself that reduces it to 7 or 8 days. In any case if you're happy
with the items you bought, what have you got to complain about ? You don't
expect positive feedback when you shop in Tesco do you ? So why from a buyers
perspective, should eBay any different ?


michael adams

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> Bob


From: Roland Perry on
In message <6e4nvbF5bu7sU1(a)mid.individual.net>, at 23:51:16 on Tue, 15
Jul 2008, michael adams <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> remarked:
>As a buyer why are you bothered about feedback ? Unless you attract a lot
>of negs and end up automatically getting blocked, the total number or percentage
>of positives you get, makes no difference to your ability to bid on items.

I think it harks back to a bygone era.

When I sold a car on eBay, looking at people's feedback was helpful in
making decisions about "shall I wait in if this person is late coming to
view", "should I try harder to arrange a viewing with this buyer" and so
on.

As a buyer, they would have needed 'good' feedback in order to push my
buttons, so to speak, and have me be more flexible about viewings than I
initially intended. And I think I did detect that effect when the boot
was on the other foot and I was buying a car on eBay (a few years ago
now).

But these days, such transactions are perhaps very much in the minority.

(I checked the dealer I eventually bought from, just now; and although
he's still selling about one car a month on eBay, it's a far cry from
the four or five a week he was doing right up to August last year.)
--
Roland Perry
From: Roland Perry on
In message <g5mps9$2ve4$1(a)energise.enta.net>, at 07:47:23 on Thu, 17 Jul
2008, Road_Hog <nospam(a)nospam.com> remarked:
>>>If you were selling something, would you cancel bids from a
>>>buyer with a feedback rating of 200 with 100% positive?
>>
>> No, but why is that relevant. How did this scamming buyer get his 200
>> feedback?
>
>Easy, all these fools that prescribe to the theory of automatic pos feedback
>once the buyer has paid.

200 just seems like an awful big 'investment' for the scammer to make.
Wouldn't 20 be just as good?
--
Roland Perry
From: Road_Hog on

"Roland Perry" <roland(a)perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Hcnwia1qowfIFASD(a)perry.co.uk...
> In message <g5mps9$2ve4$1(a)energise.enta.net>, at 07:47:23 on Thu, 17 Jul
> 2008, Road_Hog <nospam(a)nospam.com> remarked:
>>>>If you were selling something, would you cancel bids from a
>>>>buyer with a feedback rating of 200 with 100% positive?
>>>
>>> No, but why is that relevant. How did this scamming buyer get his 200
>>> feedback?
>>
>>Easy, all these fools that prescribe to the theory of automatic pos
>>feedback
>>once the buyer has paid.
>
> 200 just seems like an awful big 'investment' for the scammer to make.
> Wouldn't 20 be just as good?

No, you can get 20 feedback in an hour or so.

But there are two types of dishonest people on ebay. Scammers, whose whole
intention is to defraud people, that is there starting, mid and end point.
They have always existed.

Now you have the dishonest thief (not to suggest that there are honest
thiefs) who starts on ebay, buys stuff, does it for a while. Then one day
they receive an item, may be ordinary post, maybe recorded that the postie
just shoved through the letter box. They're a bit short of money and they
think, hmmnn... I could say I didn't receive it. They get their money
back, and think that was good, I might have another go at that, I might just
buy a top up voucher for my mobile and then file an INR. Then they'll carry
on using their account buying stuff and paying for it, but every now and
then, they'll go for a freebie/refund.

These people have 200+ feedback, because they can carry on using their
accounts with impunity forever more because a seller can't leave honest
feedback to warn others.


From: Appelation Controlee on
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:34:40 +0100, Bob Hardwell wrote:

> Has anyone else suffered sellers not leaving feedback lately?
>
> I have bought 3 items in the last 10 days and none of the sellers have
> left feedback despite my sending an e-mail asking for feedback.
>
> Although there are no rules governing feedback I have always believed
> that the seller should leave feedback first upon receipt of the payment.
> The buyer should then leave feedback on receipt of the item.
>
> Is this a sign of the times and the new policy of preventing seller from
> responding with negative feedback?

I haven't receive feedback for three of the items I've bought over the last
month, but who cares?
There's simply no way I would go whingeing to the sellers about it.
Why is it so important to you?