Flip Kwikset left-hand lock knob to right-hand keyhole reversal
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From: Stormin Mormon on 14 Jan 2007 08:32 I learned how to disassemble Kwikkies from the locksmiths who trained me. I don't know of any web sites to help out. Where did you buy the locks? Maybe someone there can help? -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. <MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:hmcko30upmj9.j7wklsmpcvdz$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > How do we flip a left-hand Kwikset lock so it works on a right-hand door? > > I bought a set of Kwikset Security locks which advertise "Fits All Doors" & > "Easy Installation". The Kwikset lock package contained two left-hand keyed > knobs and two deadbolts. > > The problem is there is NOTHING on the package that indicates the two keyed > knobs are set up for left-handed doors (those with the hinge on the left). > My outside doors are right-hand doors (they have the hinge on the right). > > It's crazy to me that Kwikset doesn't even SAY on the package that all my > lock cylinders will be upside down unless I can figure out how to switch > the Kwikset lock from being a left-hand knob to a right-hand knob. > > Do you know how? > > I googled only to find a very tough to follow description of the lock knob > keyhole reversing procedure sans pictures at > http://forum.doityourself.com/showthread.php?t=227800 > > Is there a PHOTOGRAPH or DIAGRAM of how to reverse a quickset lock that is > set up for a left-hand door to have the keyhole right-side up for a > right-hand door? > > The instructions have room for Spanish, English, and French, but no room to > tell us how to install the lock such that the keyhole is right-side up. > > Is the procedure to flip the Kwikset keyhole documented (with pictures)?
From: Stormin Mormon on 14 Jan 2007 08:33 I've never net searched this question. I use a cylinder removal tool which I got from my wholesale parts house. You have to remove the center shaft, and snap the cylinder out. Snap it back in (right side up) and replace the center shaft. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. <MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1cbkauynvqnq5$.132idhw7hbv5r.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:03:37 GMT, MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Is the procedure to flip the Kwikset keyhole documented (with pictures)? > > I should note this is a keyed "entry" lock, with no screws in the keyed > half of the lock. If the keyhole reverses, it must be via some sort of > lever or tab as there is no way I can even see to get the knob off. > > I think the door entry lock part number is Kwikset 25513-001. > > Where can I find PICTURES or DIAGRAMS of the procedure to flip a Kwikset > entry lock from the left-hand keyhole position to a right-handed lock?
From: Stormin Mormon on 14 Jan 2007 08:35 I didn't look at your link, but a "kwikset puller" is probably different than the cylinder removal tool that I use. My cylinder removal tool cost less than a dollar at my parts house. You're missing that Kwikset sells a very simple tool for reversing the cylinders. And you're also missing that some folks work at locksmith shops and learn from other locksmiths. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. <MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1v6opdo7x9axn.11pl9iw29wc6a.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:26:56 -0800, MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com wrote: > > So much for the "Easy Installation" and "Fits All Doors" on the package! :( > > Why doesn't Kwikset just LABEL their package for left-hand doors only? > > The knob entry lock looks much like the photograph here > http://www.inspectiondollars.com/kwiksetpuller.pdf > > I'm shocked that I have to order this Kwikset cylinder removal tool just to > get the lock to fit a right hand door. > > Assuming left hand and right hand doors are each half the doors in the > world, it seems inconceivable to me that we'd need a hundred dollar tool > for half the houses of the world! > > I must be missing something simple. > > Do YOU know where SIMPLE instructions might be for switching a Kwikset > entry lock keyway from upside down to right side up?
From: Stormin Mormon on 14 Jan 2007 08:39 Ah, now we get some more information. You bought the locks at Home Depot. Well, that makes you a frugal home owner. If you were interested in having it done, you could likely find a locksmith who would come out and do the install for you. And then he (she?) could do the cylinder removal for you. Actually, it doesn't surprise me that you're not a locksmith customer. If you were, you'd have the job all done by now. And you wouldn't be posting repeatedly to usenet looking for free advice. By trying to save a buck on buying your own lock, you wasted several hours of your life. What is your life worth? What is your time worth? Was that a good use of your time? Spend hours to learn something you'll need twice in your life? Just call a locksmith and be done with it. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. <MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1gdlircuwnmup$.1tkd3j1cz8s3r$.dlg(a)40tude.net... > On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:41:59 -0800, MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com wrote: > > I'm shocked that I have to order this Kwikset cylinder removal tool > > just to get the Kwikset lock to fit a right hand door. > > I must be missing something simple. > > I give up. > I tried for hours to remove the lock so I could put it right side up > instead of upside down in my right hand door. > > It seems I lack a three-dollar tool. > http://www.lockpicks.com/browseproducts/Simple-Kwikset-Core-Removing-Tool.html > > Instead of ordering the tool, I'm so very frustrated with this 50 dollar > Kwikset lock that I'm returning it to the Home Depot tomorrow. > > What I learned so far is to never ever again purchase any door entry lock > that doesn't SAY whether it's a right or left-handed lock! > > Otherwise, half the time, we'd be buying the WRONG lock! > > I suspect Kwikset did this on purpose but for the life of me, I can't > figure out what perverse thoughts were in their mind to torture us so.
From: George on 14 Jan 2007 08:49
Nate Nagel wrote: > MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com wrote: >> How do we flip a left-hand Kwikset lock so it works on a right-hand door? >> >> I bought a set of Kwikset Security locks which advertise "Fits All >> Doors" & >> "Easy Installation". The Kwikset lock package contained two left-hand >> keyed >> knobs and two deadbolts. >> >> The problem is there is NOTHING on the package that indicates the two >> keyed >> knobs are set up for left-handed doors (those with the hinge on the >> left). >> My outside doors are right-hand doors (they have the hinge on the right). >> >> It's crazy to me that Kwikset doesn't even SAY on the package that all my >> lock cylinders will be upside down unless I can figure out how to switch >> the Kwikset lock from being a left-hand knob to a right-hand knob. >> >> Do you know how? >> >> I googled only to find a very tough to follow description of the lock >> knob >> keyhole reversing procedure sans pictures at >> http://forum.doityourself.com/showthread.php?t=227800 >> >> Is there a PHOTOGRAPH or DIAGRAM of how to reverse a quickset lock >> that is >> set up for a left-hand door to have the keyhole right-side up for a >> right-hand door? >> >> The instructions have room for Spanish, English, and French, but no >> room to >> tell us how to install the lock such that the keyhole is right-side up. >> >> Is the procedure to flip the Kwikset keyhole documented (with pictures)? > > I'm not sure, but... > > ...why Kwikset? Schlage is nearly the same price, and MUCH better > quality - you can feel the difference just by turning the knob, heavier > metal, parts less "sloppy" - even if you aren't in any way mechanically > inclined. And even worse the Home depot Kwikset locksets are the total bottom of whatever little quality Kwikset has. > > I'm not really of a criminal bent, but I have my suspicions that I could > easily break/bypass your Kwikset lockset with only a good pair of boots > - I suspect one swift kick would knock the outer knob right off the door. > > Of course, if you don't have a deadbolt, there's no point worrying about > it... any kid with a library card can get in your door. > > nate > |