From: Nate Nagel on
How am I wrong? I have defeated several "deadlocking latches" - both
Kwikset and also good quality Weiser and Schlage - with only a thin
piece of flexible plastic. If you want anything that will cause someone
motivated to get into your house to have to take more than a couple
minutes, you need a deadBOLT. As I said, any kid with a library card
can defeat a deadlocking latch UNLESS you take other measures to keep
them from doing so, like cutting a slot to catch the card in the door
jamb. Even so they can sneak the card around the corner above the latch
and slide it down.

nate

Steve wrote:
> "Proving he watches a lot of TV and doesn't know what a deadlocking latch is
> Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)flycast.net> wrote in message
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>
>>MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Of course, if you don't have a deadbolt, there's no point worrying about
>>it... any kid with a library card can get in your door.
>>
>>nate
>>
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From: Steve on

"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You can't pop the cylinder out with a screw driver. Takes a
> special tool.


This is total BS again showing how little you know about the trades you hack
at. It can be popped with a screwdriver (or two) of the right dimensions or
a sharp pick or anything that will physically fit for that matter.



From: Roger Cann on
quick 2�... when installed correctly deadlatch works and library card
doesn't. :-)

Yes when installed wrong almost anybody with the knowledge of how to bend
that card just right can get in with a credit card. That's why we make the
big bucks... When we come across this at a customers location (via lock-out
or break-in) we'll realign the strike plate to bring the "DEADLATCH" back
into the picture and also encourage the purchase of a deadbolt and maybe a
strike protector as well. Hey it is all about the Benjamin's and public
safety is it not?

still in business,
Roger

"Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)flycast.net> wrote in message
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> How am I wrong? I have defeated several "deadlocking latches" - both
> Kwikset and also good quality Weiser and Schlage - with only a thin piece
> of flexible plastic. If you want anything that will cause someone
> motivated to get into your house to have to take more than a couple
> minutes, you need a deadBOLT. As I said, any kid with a library card can
> defeat a deadlocking latch UNLESS you take other measures to keep them
> from doing so, like cutting a slot to catch the card in the door jamb.
> Even so they can sneak the card around the corner above the latch and
> slide it down.
>
> nate
>
> Steve wrote:
>> "Proving he watches a lot of TV and doesn't know what a deadlocking latch
>> is
>> Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)flycast.net> wrote in message
>> news:eod5oj0mq0(a)news2.newsguy.com...
>>
>>>MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Of course, if you don't have a deadbolt, there's no point worrying about
>>>it... any kid with a library card can get in your door.
>>>
>>>nate
>>>
>>>--
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>>>http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
>>
>>
>>
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From: Nate Nagel on
How...? the little extra pin still retracts when you push the latch
back. unless you can stop that from happening, you will always be able
to use the library card trick.

nate

Roger Cann wrote:
> quick 2�... when installed correctly deadlatch works and library card
> doesn't. :-)
>
> Yes when installed wrong almost anybody with the knowledge of how to bend
> that card just right can get in with a credit card. That's why we make the
> big bucks... When we come across this at a customers location (via lock-out
> or break-in) we'll realign the strike plate to bring the "DEADLATCH" back
> into the picture and also encourage the purchase of a deadbolt and maybe a
> strike protector as well. Hey it is all about the Benjamin's and public
> safety is it not?
>
> still in business,
> Roger
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)flycast.net> wrote in message
> news:eogc1608fe(a)news2.newsguy.com...
>
>>How am I wrong? I have defeated several "deadlocking latches" - both
>>Kwikset and also good quality Weiser and Schlage - with only a thin piece
>>of flexible plastic. If you want anything that will cause someone
>>motivated to get into your house to have to take more than a couple
>>minutes, you need a deadBOLT. As I said, any kid with a library card can
>>defeat a deadlocking latch UNLESS you take other measures to keep them
>>from doing so, like cutting a slot to catch the card in the door jamb.
>>Even so they can sneak the card around the corner above the latch and
>>slide it down.
>>
>>nate
>>
>>Steve wrote:
>>
>>>"Proving he watches a lot of TV and doesn't know what a deadlocking latch
>>>is
>>>Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)flycast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:eod5oj0mq0(a)news2.newsguy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Of course, if you don't have a deadbolt, there's no point worrying about
>>>>it... any kid with a library card can get in your door.
>>>>
>>>>nate
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>replace "fly" with "com" to reply.
>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From: DanG on
The little extra pin is called an anti pick feature. If it is
depressed, you should not be able to push the strike back.

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"Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)flycast.net> wrote in message
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> How...? the little extra pin still retracts when you push the
> latch back. unless you can stop that from happening, you will
> always be able to use the library card trick.
>
> nate
>
> Roger Cann wrote:
>> quick 2�... when installed correctly deadlatch works and
>> library card doesn't. :-)
>>
>> Yes when installed wrong almost anybody with the knowledge of
>> how to bend that card just right can get in with a credit card.
>> That's why we make the big bucks... When we come across this
>> at a customers location (via lock-out or break-in) we'll
>> realign the strike plate to bring the "DEADLATCH" back into the
>> picture and also encourage the purchase of a deadbolt and maybe
>> a strike protector as well. Hey it is all about the Benjamin's
>> and public safety is it not?
>>
>> still in business,
>> Roger
>>
>> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)flycast.net> wrote in message
>> news:eogc1608fe(a)news2.newsguy.com...
>>
>>>How am I wrong? I have defeated several "deadlocking
>>>latches" - both Kwikset and also good quality Weiser and
>>>Schlage - with only a thin piece of flexible plastic. If you
>>>want anything that will cause someone motivated to get into
>>>your house to have to take more than a couple minutes, you need
>>>a deadBOLT. As I said, any kid with a library card can defeat
>>>a deadlocking latch UNLESS you take other measures to keep them
>>>from doing so, like cutting a slot to catch the card in the
>>>door jamb. Even so they can sneak the card around the corner
>>>above the latch and slide it down.
>>>
>>>nate
>>>
>>>Steve wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Proving he watches a lot of TV and doesn't know what a
>>>>deadlocking latch is
>>>>Nate Nagel" <njnagel(a)flycast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:eod5oj0mq0(a)news2.newsguy.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Of course, if you don't have a deadbolt, there's no point
>>>>>worrying about
>>>>>it... any kid with a library card can get in your door.
>>>>>
>>>>>nate
>>>>>
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>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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