From: 'Key on
"Steve" <steve(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "'Key" <Key(a)Ya.Net> wrote in message
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>> "Steve" <steve(a)nospam.net> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote in message
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>> >> You can't pop the cylinder out with a screw driver.
>> >> Takes
>> >> a
>> >> special tool.
>> >
>> >
>> > This is total BS again showing how little you know
>> > about
>> > the trades you hack
>> > at. It can be popped with a screwdriver (or two) of the
>> > right dimensions or
>> > a sharp pick or anything that will physically fit for
>> > that
>> > matter.
>>
>>
>> actually it can be popped out from the rear with a blunt
>> ended punch :-)
>>
>> --
>> "Key"
>> ========
>
> I've found when you knock it out it's the same as pulling
> it from the front.
> Usually distorts the clips a little which granted is a
> small thing and
> easily fixed, but it bugs me to even slightly damage
> something I'm being
> paid to work on, if I don't absolutely have to. Then
> again some people
> complain I'm a damn perfectionist and it drives them
> nuts....
>

I was only talking doing this as a last resort.
like when one mis-places their removal tool.
it will not do germinate damage.
(unless ya use a sledge hammer)
:-)
--
"Key"
========


From: SMS on
Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <xjodj0ux8s1i.1xfia1846c3vf.dlg(a)40tude.net>, "MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com" <MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:35:01 GMT, Doug Miller wrote:
>>> I've never seen a deadbolt lock where installing it on either a right-hung or
>>> a left-hung door depended on removing the lock cylinder.
>> My problem isn't with the deadbolt, it's with the entry lock knob.
>>
>> Are you saying one can switch a Kwikset entry knob from a left-hand
>> configuration to a right-hand lock setup WITHOUT removing the lock
>> cylinder?
>
> Absolutely. Works the same way as I described for a deadbolt.

Yeah, yeah, what was I thinking?!

The inside knob activates the latch whether you turn it clockwise or
counter-clockwise, so you just turn the whole lockset 180 degrees.

The deadbolt requires reversing the shaft.
From: 'Key on
"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Doug Miller wrote:
>> In article <xjodj0ux8s1i.1xfia1846c3vf.dlg(a)40tude.net>,
>> "MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com" <MsMonarchdancer(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:35:01 GMT, Doug Miller wrote:
>>>> I've never seen a deadbolt lock where installing it on
>>>> either a right-hung or
>>>> a left-hung door depended on removing the lock
>>>> cylinder.
>>> My problem isn't with the deadbolt, it's with the entry
>>> lock knob.
>>>
>>> Are you saying one can switch a Kwikset entry knob from
>>> a left-hand
>>> configuration to a right-hand lock setup WITHOUT
>>> removing the lock
>>> cylinder?
>>
>> Absolutely. Works the same way as I described for a
>> deadbolt.

no it doesn't..

> Yeah, yeah, what was I thinking?!
>
> The inside knob activates the latch whether you turn it
> clockwise or counter-clockwise, so you just turn the whole
> lockset 180 degrees.

the keyway on the knob lock will also be 180 off.
the half moon shaft only goes through the spring-latch one
way. it is not reversable.

> The deadbolt requires reversing the shaft.

no it doesn't. in order to time a deadbolt,
with the key out of the lock, the tail-piece on the deadbolt
goes half way (centered) between all the way left and all
the way right,
no matter if it LH or RH...

--
"Key"
========



From: SMS on
'Key wrote:
\
> the keyway on the knob lock will also be 180 off.
> the half moon shaft only goes through the spring-latch one
> way. it is not reversable.

Right, looking at it I now see that. I wonder why they couldn't design
it so the half-moon shaft could go in either way.

>> The deadbolt requires reversing the shaft.
>
> no it doesn't. in order to time a deadbolt,
> with the key out of the lock, the tail-piece on the deadbolt
> goes half way (centered) between all the way left and all
> the way right,
> no matter if it LH or RH...

Yeah, my mistake.
From: Stormin Mormon on
Guess that makes TWO guys who have never worked on a Kwikset knob
lock?

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> >> Are you saying one can switch a Kwikset entry knob from a
left-hand
> >> configuration to a right-hand lock setup WITHOUT removing
the lock
> >> cylinder?
> >
> > Absolutely. Works the same way as I described for a deadbolt.
>
> Yeah, yeah, what was I thinking?!
>
> The inside knob activates the latch whether you turn it
clockwise or
> counter-clockwise, so you just turn the whole lockset 180
degrees.
>
> The deadbolt requires reversing the shaft.