From: MsMonarchdancer on
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:39:06 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Ah, now we get some more information. You bought the locks at
> Home Depot. Well, that makes you a frugal home owner. If you were
> interested in having it done, you could likely find a locksmith

Hi there Stormin Mormom,
I do appreciate your expert advice.

The old lock jammed probably because the old five-inch long entry latch
bent inside somewhere.

So, just before Home Depot closed for the evening, I stopped by, asked for
help, and picked up a four-lock set (two deadbolts and two entry lock
knobs) for about fifty dollars. I figured it would take all of a half hour
to replace something as "simple" as a lock (I know.... I know ... it wasn't
so simple in the end but I didn't know that so it didn't play into my
decision tree).

To be frank, I could have bought just one lock or even just one five-inch
latch. The main reason I didn't buy just the latch is that I didn't know
what else would break so I wanted to replace the whole configuration. The
main reason I bought four locks instead of just one is I wanted to do a
good job by replacing them all, instead of just repairing the one broken
entry lock. I want one key for the whole house (including deadbolts and
entry knobs).

I started the job by nightfall assuming it would be done before dinner and
as you can tell, it was midnight before I finally gave up for the night.

I guess I COULD have called a locksmith to install the four locks, but
they'd have to get here before midnight to do me any good. Again, since I
erroneously believed the "fits all doors" and "easy installation" claims of
the package, I erred by not realizing that it didn't fit all doors (not
without removing the cylinder) and the installation instructions were
silent on this key task!

In the end, I simply installed a new five-inch latch and put the old lock
back on. It's not as good a job, but I will have to get the right tool

Thank you for your expert advice.

My intention was to replace the lock and deadbolt on the outside door
From: MsMonarchdancer on
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:54:03 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote:
> ...why Kwikset? Schlage is nearly the same price, and MUCH better
> quality - you can feel the difference just by turning the knob, heavier
> metal, parts less "sloppy" - even if you aren't in any way mechanically
> inclined.

I took the advice of the Home Depot salesman. I didn't inherently have any
gut feelings either way for Yale, Schlage, Kwikset, etc.

I do now have a very bad instinctive "feeling" about Kwikset. Basically,
they lied blatantly on their package. That puts them at the very bottom of
the pile now for me as that shows they don't have any ethics.

That in and of itself does not mean their locks are any worse than the
competition. It just means I deplore their marketing practices and I can
easily vote with my dollars in another direction.

The key question is whether the OTHER manufacturers are as bad?
Are they?

Which manufacture is most honest about how "easy" it is to install their
locks in the proper configuration?
From: MsMonarchdancer on
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:49:08 -0500, George wrote:
> And even worse the Home depot Kwikset locksets are the total bottom of
> whatever little quality Kwikset has.

Which lock manufacturer do you suggest we consider for ease of flipping
from a left hand configuration to a right hand configuration?
From: MsMonarchdancer on
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:32:18 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Where did you buy the locks? Maybe someone there can help?

I picked up the locks at Home Depot and the five-inch latch at OSH because
Home Depot doesn't carry them. I buy all my Craftsman tools at Sears.

That's about it for my general hardware needs. If I can't find it at one of
those three hardware stores, I call someone to do the work.

I did believe the package instructions which said "easy to install", and
"installs in minutes". My bad.
From: MsMonarchdancer on
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:31:28 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote:
> the key's teeth point down

Thank you Nate.

I can't stand locks lazily put in upside down.

The "teeth" should most definately point UP!

Anyone who does anything else, is paid too much!