From: michael adams on

"michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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> Seller new to eBay feedback selling around 10 items
> on behalf of a deceased estate.
>
> I bought an item on a BIN for around �65 this afternoon
> paying via Paypal.
>
> Just had an email from the seller asking me to leave
> feedback prior to dispatch so they could get hold of the
> Paypal funds.
>
> As a "goodwill gesture" they promised to speed up dispatch
> (the postage is already a ruipff).
>
> I've got over 200 feedback all positive and told them either to
> believe the feedback or get negged but in a "nice" way.
>
> i.e it took five paragraphs and 20 minutes because they're probably
> genuine but are spooked out by all the rip-off paranoia.
>
>
>
> michael adams
>
>


Follow up.

He's still at it.

He had 8 items altogether. So far he's sold 2, both on BINs

I bought the first one on the 12th

He sold the 2nd item yesterday the 13th. at 17.04 .

Here's the feedback -

"thanks for the communication ,good e bayer"

left at 13-Feb-10 17:30 by someone with 193 feedbacks all as a buyer.

As this sale was only for �40 in total, and the sellers most expensive
item shouldn't make more than �200 this probably isn't a scam.
But what about goods which turn up damaged or not as described ?

Maybe I'm missing something here. If the item shows up damaged
then can the buyer then turn round and say as the feedback
was left immediately after the sale it obviously didn't apply to
the condition of the item and so is null and void in that respect ?


michael adams

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From: Dodgy Geezer on
michael adams wrote:
> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
> news:7tllhlFqs1U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Seller new to eBay feedback selling around 10 items
>> on behalf of a deceased estate.
>>
>> I bought an item on a BIN for around �65 this afternoon
>> paying via Paypal.
>>
>> Just had an email from the seller asking me to leave
>> feedback prior to dispatch so they could get hold of the
>> Paypal funds.
>>
>> As a "goodwill gesture" they promised to speed up dispatch
>> (the postage is already a ruipff).
>>
>> I've got over 200 feedback all positive and told them either to
>> believe the feedback or get negged but in a "nice" way.
>>
>> i.e it took five paragraphs and 20 minutes because they're probably
>> genuine but are spooked out by all the rip-off paranoia.
>>
>>
>>
>> michael adams
>>
>>
>
>
> Follow up.
>
> He's still at it.
>
> He had 8 items altogether. So far he's sold 2, both on BINs
>
> I bought the first one on the 12th
>
> He sold the 2nd item yesterday the 13th. at 17.04 .
>
> Here's the feedback -
>
> "thanks for the communication ,good e bayer"
>
> left at 13-Feb-10 17:30 by someone with 193 feedbacks all as a buyer.
>
> As this sale was only for �40 in total, and the sellers most expensive
> item shouldn't make more than �200 this probably isn't a scam.
> But what about goods which turn up damaged or not as described ?
>
> Maybe I'm missing something here. If the item shows up damaged
> then can the buyer then turn round and say as the feedback
> was left immediately after the sale it obviously didn't apply to
> the condition of the item and so is null and void in that respect ?
>
>
> michael adams
>
> ...
>
>

Life's too short for worrying about this.

If you want the goods then just leave a positive like "Here you go,
please post quickly as promised."

If you don't want the goods then just leave a neg and move on.
From: michael adams on

"Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:UtRdn.6640$DL1.5636(a)newsfe25.ams2...
> michael adams wrote:
> > "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
> > news:7tllhlFqs1U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> >> Seller new to eBay feedback selling around 10 items
> >> on behalf of a deceased estate.
> >>
> >> I bought an item on a BIN for around �65 this afternoon
> >> paying via Paypal.
> >>
> >> Just had an email from the seller asking me to leave
> >> feedback prior to dispatch so they could get hold of the
> >> Paypal funds.
> >>
> >> As a "goodwill gesture" they promised to speed up dispatch
> >> (the postage is already a ruipff).
> >>
> >> I've got over 200 feedback all positive and told them either to
> >> believe the feedback or get negged but in a "nice" way.
> >>
> >> i.e it took five paragraphs and 20 minutes because they're probably
> >> genuine but are spooked out by all the rip-off paranoia.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> michael adams
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Follow up.
> >
> > He's still at it.
> >
> > He had 8 items altogether. So far he's sold 2, both on BINs
> >
> > I bought the first one on the 12th
> >
> > He sold the 2nd item yesterday the 13th. at 17.04 .
> >
> > Here's the feedback -
> >
> > "thanks for the communication ,good e bayer"
> >
> > left at 13-Feb-10 17:30 by someone with 193 feedbacks all as a buyer.
> >
> > As this sale was only for �40 in total, and the sellers most expensive
> > item shouldn't make more than �200 this probably isn't a scam.
> > But what about goods which turn up damaged or not as described ?
> >
> > Maybe I'm missing something here. If the item shows up damaged
> > then can the buyer then turn round and say as the feedback
> > was left immediately after the sale it obviously didn't apply to
> > the condition of the item and so is null and void in that respect ?
> >
> >
> > michael adams
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
>
> Life's too short for worrying about this.

There there, diddums you won't have to worry any more.

You see, as I posted yesterday he already emailed me yesterday saying he'd
send the item out this week.

Which was very big of him, seeing as I'd paid for it on Saturday. Anyway

>
> If you want the goods then just leave a positive like "Here you go,
> please post quickly as promised."

Oh really?

And this is a "positive" for what exactly ? For him sending me an email
which would have shamed a 6 year old with learning difficulties ?

And then if the item turns up damaged then what do you suggest I do
then? Apart from fannying about for a couple of weeks trying to
get the feedback changed and looking a right mug in the process.


>
> If you don't want the goods then just leave a neg and move on.

I do want the goods. Otherwise I wouldn't bought them on a BIN and paid
for them immediately, would I ?

Do you have the foggiest idea what you're talking about ?


michael adams

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From: michael adams on

"Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:iFXdn.64248$En7.22995(a)newsfe07.ams2...
> michael adams wrote:
>
> > As this is clearly feedback extortion - asking you to give him feedback before
> > he'll even dispatch the goods.
> >
>
> It appears that way to buyers.
>
> The guy understanably wants paying, not Paypal keeping hold of it
> pending your approval.

There's no "understandably" about it. Every seller offering Paypal
knows before they list anything on eBay that Paypal won't clear the funds
until either the buyer leaves feedback or 21 days have elapsed.

Presumably like the numpty seller you weren't aware of that fact either.


michael adams

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From: petrolcan on
In article <7trcufFitoU1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams says...
>
> "Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:iFXdn.64248$En7.22995(a)newsfe07.ams2...
> > michael adams wrote:
> >
> > > As this is clearly feedback extortion - asking you to give him feedback before
> > > he'll even dispatch the goods.
> > >
> >
> > It appears that way to buyers.
> >
> > The guy understanably wants paying, not Paypal keeping hold of it
> > pending your approval.
>
> There's no "understandably" about it. Every seller offering Paypal
> knows before they list anything on eBay that Paypal won't clear the funds
> until either the buyer leaves feedback or 21 days have elapsed.

Wrong. I've never had my funds held.

> Presumably like the numpty seller you weren't aware of that fact either.

Michael, you really shouldn't be the one throwing the insults around as
it is you being the numpty here.