From: petrolcan on
In article <7tsjm2F3tqU1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams says...
>
> "petrolcan" <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.25e326eb8e573763989bdc(a)text.news.virginmedia.com...
> > In article <7tsir4Fuq9U1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams says...
> > >
> > > "Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:hlagn5$1nif$1(a)energise.enta.net...
> > > > "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:7trcufFitoU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:iFXdn.64248$En7.22995(a)newsfe07.ams2...
> > > > >> michael adams wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > As this is clearly feedback extortion - asking you to give him feedback
> > > > >> > before
> > > > >> > he'll even dispatch the goods.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It appears that way to buyers.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The guy understanably wants paying, not Paypal keeping hold of it
> > > > >> pending your approval.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's no "understandably" about it. Every seller offering Paypal
> > > > > knows before they list anything on eBay that Paypal won't clear the funds
> > > > > until either the buyer leaves feedback or 21 days have elapsed.
> > > >
> > > > Wrong, only new/low volume sellers in certain categories.
> > >
> > >
> > > <quote>
> > >
> > > .PayPal holds payments to ensure that sellers have sufficient funds in their
> > > account if a customer files a dispute or chargeback
> > >
> > > <quote>
> > >
> > > https://www.paypal-marketing.co.uk/safetyadvice/PaymentHoldsForEbayItems.htm
> > >
> > > Sellers with zero or low feedback can't be guarenteed to have sufficient funds
> > > in the their account already in the event of a dispute.
> > >
> > > Hence the hold is mandatory. There's no "may" or "certain caregories" about it.
> >
> > Read it again.
>
> "PayPal holds payments to ensure that sellers have sufficient funds in their
> account if a customer files a dispute or chargeback"

But you deliberately miss out the bit near the beginning of the page
where it says "we?ll occasionally hold back payments from certain
sellers to ensure that their buyers are completely satisfied."

> Given which, if a seller has zero or low feedback then how can Paypal
> possibly
> release any funds until they know there'll be no dispute ? i.e. after good feedback
> or 21 days has elapsed - giving the buyer plenty of time to open a dispute ?
>
> That's the whole purpose of the policy !

I can see nowhere in that policy where it states that paypal *will* hold
back payment for a new seller.

> Are you so dense that you need everything spelled out to you in the
> simplest terms ?

Oh, insults again.


From: michael adams on

"Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
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> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
> news:7tsj01Fvl9U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> >
> > "Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
> > news:hlb4es$7g3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >>
>
> >> Even then they are
> >> told in a small paragraph that Paypal *may* hold onto the payment.
> >
>
> I did not say that. Are you not able to attribute correctly?


Unable to count indents now as well then, are you ?

Clearly you're upset that Neil has found a new fanboy in Petrolcan,
and those tears streaming down your face are preventing you from
distinguishing between

" > > " and " > >> "

Time to get the tissues out methinks.


michael adams

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>


From: petrolcan on
In article <7tsjtdF54tU1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams says...
>
> "Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
> news:hlb4r7$agc$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
> > news:7tsir4Fuq9U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> >
> > > Sellers with zero or low feedback can't be guarenteed to have sufficient
> > > funds
> > > in the their account already in the event of a dispute.
> > >
> > > Hence the hold is mandatory. There's no "may" or "certain caregories"
> > > about it.
> >
> > Wrong. It has nothing to do with the presence of PayPal funds - think about
> > it, if you can.
>
>
> < quote>
>
> PayPal holds payments to ensure that sellers have sufficient funds in their
> account if a customer files a dispute or chargeback.
>
> <quote>
>
> https://www.paypal-marketing.co.uk/safetyadvice/PaymentHoldsForEbayItems.htm
>
>
> Which word or words in the 5 word phrase
>
> "sufficient funds in their account"
>
> are you having the greatest difficulty with ?

Which bit of "we?ll occasionally hold back payments from certain sellers
to ensure that their buyers are completely satisfied" is it that you are
having difficulty with?

You do know what occassionally means, don't you?
From: michael adams on

"petrolcan" <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25e32b4850619d5c989bde(a)text.news.virginmedia.com...
In article <7tsjm2F3tqU1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams says...

> I can see nowhere in that policy where it states that paypal *will* hold
> back payment for a new seller.

So you're claiming that despite a new seller having insufficient funds in
their account in the event of a dispute, Paypal won't always operate
a 21 day hold.

Despite the fact that is directly contrary to their stated policy.


michael adams

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From: Fran on

"michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "petrolcan" <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.25e32b4850619d5c989bde(a)text.news.virginmedia.com...
> In article <7tsjm2F3tqU1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams says...
>
>> I can see nowhere in that policy where it states that paypal *will* hold
>> back payment for a new seller.
>
> So you're claiming that despite a new seller having insufficient funds in
> their account in the event of a dispute, Paypal won't always operate
> a 21 day hold.

He's right, you're wrong.

>
> Despite the fact that is directly contrary to their stated policy.
>
>

Have a free clue: check the definition of the word "may".