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From: andnewman on 30 May 2010 20:52
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:37:35 +0200, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

> Bert Hyman wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote
>>> Bert Hyman wrote
>>>> zeez <blinkingblythe01(a)gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>> I've always wondered why most phones period are not made to
>>>>> be water resistant. The companies know that they would will likely
>>>>> get rained on, dropped into toilets, splashed on, spilled on, etc.
>
>>>> Except that most people never have that problem, so the demand
>>>> for waterproof phones is small compared to the total market.
>
>>>>> Just how hard/expensive is it to give these devices at least some
>>>>> basic water resistance?
>
>>>> Reasonably hard, without making the device bigger, heavier and
>>>> probably harder to use.
>
>>>> Take a look at all the holes in your phone for the microphone,
>>>> earpiece, charging port, battery access and the like.
>
>>> Easy enough to do all those waterproof except for the battery access.
>
>>> The iphone doesnt have battery access and doesnt have physical
>>> keyboard either.
>
>> But it does have openings for the power switch, SIM card, earpiece
>> (& mic?), that button on the front, a jack for an external earpiece/mic,
>
> The point is that its trivial to make those waterproof, so your claim
> that its
> going to make the phone much bigger and more expensive is just plain
> wrong.
>
> Doesnt have to have a removable SIM card either, the Nokia N95 8GB
> doesnt.
All I've used had removable SIM, but not removable memory card. How else
would we place our own Subscriber Identifier Module inside our phone?

>
>> the volume control, and the big hole for the bus connector on the
>> bottom.
>
> Doesnt have to have a bus connector and it isnt that hard to make that
> waterproof anyway.

You are confusing waterproof with water resistant. It's easy to make it
water resistant as you'll only need a rubber cap, to make it waterproof it
needs to be screwed or in an other way forced towards the connector so it
wont pop loose when under water.

Look at Samsung GT-B2100, it can be one metre (three feet) under water for
half an hour (IPx7 classed). I can't say it's light, nor is it slim, and
that's how slim and light it's possible to make them. Nokia 3720classic
can only take a spray of water (IPx4) and is a lot sleeker than the
Samsung, but then again, it's no way near waterproof!

>
>> I'm basing this on a logical extension of what my iPod Touch looks like.
>
> But you didnt think thru the basics like doing the docking via bluetooth
> etc.
>
>

Still we need to charge it, and not everyone has bluetooth in their
computers. BT is also ALOT slower than USB and it will drain the battery
quickly.


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