From: Rod Speed on
Balvenieman wrote

> If so certain about this:

>> It isn't possible to define it precisely.

> Then how the certainty about this:

>> Clearly not frugal.

> Or this:

>> Nope. Nothing like frugal.

The word PRECISELY was there for a reason.

If you still dont get it, it would be profitable to explain it to a stone.


From: Ohioguy on
>If "Obamacare" passes (fingers crossed), I should be able to retire at
>age 59. I'm already in my early 50's.

If Obama's big Socialist/Communist Crapshoot passes, I expect that,
due to the higher taxes to pay for it, I'll end up having to work an
extra 4 or 5 years until retirement.
From: Tony Sivori on
Ohioguy wrote:
>
> If Obama's big Socialist/Communist Crapshoot passes, I expect that,
> due to the higher taxes to pay for it, I'll end up having to work an
> extra 4 or 5 years until retirement.

But Bush bailing out Wall Street, Banks, Mortgage Companies, Insurance
Companies, General Motors, Chrysler, to the tune of $4.6 Trillions was ok?
How about his twin $918 Billion dollar wars? Which we've been
waging longer than World War II, but are nowhere near winning.

Bin Laden is still wasting oxygen. Sadam Hussien had NOTHING to do with
9/11/2001.

Bush ruined this country, squandered our future, squandered our
international standing, and has turned the country into a police state. He
will go down in history as the worst president to ever disgrace that
office.

And we still can't afford decent health care for every citizen. Suddenly,
when the topic of universal health care comes up, the Republicans discover
fiscal conservatism. Wonderful.

Cites for above numbers:

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

http://boingboing.net/2008/11/25/bailout-costs-more-t.html

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From: Napoleon on
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:38:12 -0400, Ohioguy <none(a)none.net> wrote:

> If Obama's big Socialist/Communist Crapshoot passes, I expect that,
>due to the higher taxes to pay for it, I'll end up having to work an
>extra 4 or 5 years until retirement.

If only it was socialized medicine - then your tax increase would go
to providing services for YOU! IMAGINE! Single-payer, socialized
medicine means you no longer pay the extortion fees to the insurance
company, which means most americans will save a tremendous amount of
money a month. In return taxes would go up, but NOWHERE NEAR THE
AMOUNT YOU CURRENTLY PAY IN "INSURANCE PREMIUMS." Plus, you no longer
have to pay any doctor's bills along with the insurance extortion fee.
I challenge anyone to show me how socialized medicine will be BAD for
them. It's only bad for people who are uninformed about the current
insurance scam.

Now, you are correct that if the current bill passes you'll still have
work, work, work until retirement (when that DREADED SOCIALIZED
MEDICINE OF MEDICARE KICKS IN - if you don't like socialized medicine,
you should turn it down, or you will be a hypocrite). Because now your
taxes will go to subsidizing the corporate insurance companies (that
is not socialism, but fascism), and you still have to pay the
extortion of private insurance companies, and pay the doctors bills
along with the extortion. Yes, you'll have to work, work, work,
because America loves its PRIVATE ENTERPRISE SUPPORTED BY TAXPAYER
DOLLARS!

Get real people, and learn the facts. Other countries have socialized
medicine and their citizens are still alive, and much happier than
Americans.
From: me on
Tony Sivori <TonySivori(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>Bush ruined this country, squandered our future, squandered our
>international standing, and has turned the country into a police state. He
>will go down in history as the worst president to ever disgrace that
>office.

Why is there ALWAYS money for war..... but none for
anything good?