From: Napoleon on
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:16:52 -0500, gheston(a)hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
wrote:

>You first. You're so delusional it's laughable.

I notice you have no facts of your own. Typical.

>Start by looking at the economies of some of those other countries; they're
>collapsing under the cost of those socialized medicine plans.

Ha ha, ha. So funny, it's pathetic. You should get out of America more
often. I've been all over the world and when I talk to "dem furriners"
they are MORE THAN CONTENT with their healthcare and lives. If
anyone's country's economy is collapsing it's the US. Norway,
Australia, France, Canada, etc. etc are doing fine and had more growth
than the US has had for years.

>If Obamas' plan was such a good idea, he and Congress would be signing
>up for it.

Obama and Congress do have socialized medicine. You pay for it. I
guess you don't want your own tax money to go to you. Oh well. I
prefer not to be a masochist and would like the same health benefits
the government employees get, since it is my tax money paying for it.
From: Gary Heston on
In article <ju3je5dcr0a40vilc848mur8h7pnq4u2s5(a)4ax.com>,
Napoleon <anarch(a)666yes.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:16:52 -0500, gheston(a)hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
>wrote:

>>You first. You're so delusional it's laughable.

>I notice you have no facts of your own. Typical.

Of course, you're "entitled" to have everything handed to you:


http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510810#at

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510720#at

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510575#at

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510340#at

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510094#at

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510102#at

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=510031#at

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/29/pelosi-unveiling-health-govt-option/

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4967571.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6739528.ece#at

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6739176.ece#at

>>Start by looking at the economies of some of those other countries; they're
>>collapsing under the cost of those socialized medicine plans.

>Ha ha, ha. So funny, it's pathetic. You should get out of America more
>often. I've been all over the world and when I talk to "dem furriners"
>they are MORE THAN CONTENT with their healthcare and lives.

I've traveled; Canada, Europe (including Great Britian), Australia,
New Zealand.

Ever talk to anyone that actually had to use it for a serious illness?
They might have a different perspective.

Princess Dianas' family and friends weren't real happy with the care
she received in France following the accident--and she was someone
important.

> If
>anyone's country's economy is collapsing it's the US. Norway,
>Australia, France, Canada, etc. etc are doing fine and had more growth
>than the US has had for years.

>>If Obamas' plan was such a good idea, he and Congress would be signing
>>up for it.

>Obama and Congress do have socialized medicine. You pay for it.

Yes; however, what they get bears no resemblence to what they're
trying to foist off on the average American citizen.

> I
>guess you don't want your own tax money to go to you. Oh well. I
>prefer not to be a masochist and would like the same health benefits
>the government employees get, since it is my tax money paying for it.

The federal employees union is calling on their membership--all those
bureaucrats we're paying--to oppose getting stuck with the proposed
"reform" plan, as they'd lose a great deal of their benefits.

What's proposed for us taxpayers isn't anywhere close to what the civil
service is getting, either.


Gary

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From: Ohioguy on
>Once we're all sick of being forced to pay outrageous fees to private
>insurance companies, we'll wake up. Someday.

Who is forced? I went for 15 years with no insurance, and didn't
need any. The only reason why we CHOSE to get insurance through work
was that we were trying to have kids. Good choice, since we've had 3
now in the past 6 years, and the cost of paying for all the fees and
such out of pocket would have been much higher than paying with cash.

I've started a health savings account recently, and much prefer to
pay for high deductible health care like this.
From: Napoleon on
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:46:30 -0400, Ohioguy <none(a)none.net> wrote:

> >Once we're all sick of being forced to pay outrageous fees to private
> >insurance companies, we'll wake up. Someday.
>
> Who is forced? I went for 15 years with no insurance, and didn't
>need any.

Um... the new bills REQUIRE you to buy private insurance. You'll have
to get rid of your HSA and buy insurance. Or keep your HSA and buy
insurance, either way you're buying insurance. Have fun!
From: Rod Speed on
Napoleon wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:46:30 -0400, Ohioguy <none(a)none.net> wrote:
>
>>> Once we're all sick of being forced to pay outrageous fees to
>>> private insurance companies, we'll wake up. Someday.
>>
>> Who is forced? I went for 15 years with no insurance, and didn't
>> need any.
>
> Um... the new bills REQUIRE you to buy private insurance.

And it remains to be seen if that will get thru congress.

> You'll have to get rid of your HSA and buy insurance.
> Or keep your HSA and buy
> insurance, either way you're buying insurance. Have fun!