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From: Rob Morley on 10 Mar 2010 12:12 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:45:17 -0000 "Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote: > And what is to stop online sellers just 'opening' a B&M store from > their current stores/home Planning permission, business rates ...
From: Dodgy Geezer on 10 Mar 2010 12:15 Fran wrote: > "Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in > message news:hn817u$2dsl$1(a)energise.enta.net... >> "Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message >> news:hn80qi$v49$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> "Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote in >>> message news:hn7vtf$2bqp$1(a)energise.enta.net... >>>> "In the next few days the European Union will finalise changes to the >>>> rules governing online stores. If you are selling branded goods you >>>> could be required to have a real-world, 'bricks and mortar shop' as well >>>> as your online store. No 'bricks and mortar shop', no online store. " >>>> >>>> Is this just applicable to branded goods in the way of designer goods >>>> does anyone know? >>>> >>> Daft question: are you sure it's a real EBay email? >> >> I think so, I clicked on the link to the survey which did not ask for any >> login details etc & the email did come from the same company conducting >> the survey, >> >> Also TameEbay picked this up last month >> http://tamebay.com/2010/02/eu-may-allow-manufacturers-to-insist-on-bm.html >> >> > > As you say, unenforceable. And pretty daft, given how many market leaders > are web only. Are Amazon supposed to open a B&M......? I think not. > It's just to force all these garden shed sellers into the open, they don't like anyone doing anything they don't know about, especially earning money. This government would love it but it's not going to happen.
From: Fran on 10 Mar 2010 12:18 "Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:3tQln.271328$kR2.112560(a)newsfe05.ams2... > It's just to force all these garden shed sellers into the open, they don't > like anyone doing anything they don't know about, especially earning > money. > That's not the reason.
From: Peter Parry on 10 Mar 2010 13:30 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:30:56 -0000, "Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)sznzozwdzoznzczozmzpzuztzezrzs.co.uk> wrote: > >Is this just applicable to branded goods in the way of designer goods does >anyone know? it is a consultation exercise on "vertical agreements". The main proponents of the "bricks and mortar" clause are the French so it will probably be shoved/bribed through in some form. Mainly it will apply to luxury goods where the manufacturer believes that unless the product is bought with the right ambience the customer experience is diminished - i.e. the French perfume manufacturers don't like on-line stores flogging their stuff at half price. Expect it to apply to fashion items as well. Currently there is a Block Exemption Regulation on vertical restraints which expires in May 2010. This allows certain restrictive trade practices. The current rules are at http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32000Y1013%2801%29:EN:HTML I wouldn't read these unless you suffer from severe insomnia and need something powerful to put you to sleep. http://ec.europa.eu/competition/publications/brochures/rules_en.pdf is a reasonably readable brochure on it. http://ec.europa.eu/competition/consultations/2009_vertical_agreements/index.html includes all the responses The eBay one by the way is 33MB in size! The proposed rules are at http://ec.europa.eu/competition/consultations/2009_vertical_agreements/draft_notice_en.pdf para 54 is the one referred to. "(54) Notwithstanding what has been said before, under the block exemption the supplier may require quality standards for the use of the Internet site to resell his goods, just as the supplier may require quality standards for a shop or for advertising and promotion in general. The latter may be relevant in particular for selective distribution, where under the block exemption the supplier may require its distributors to have a brick and mortar shop or showroom before engaging in online distribution. The same considerations apply to selling by catalogue. In an individual case, besides the possibility to plead an efficiency defence under Article 81(3) EC, an outright ban on Internet or catalogue selling may be objectively necessary and fall outside Article 81(1) EC and will thus not be considered to be a hardcore restriction if it does not restrict competition that would take place in its absence given specific circumstances in which the agreement operates, such as when its purpose is to align on a public ban on selling dangerous substances over the Internet or by mail order for reasons of safety or health. In any case, the supplier cannot reserve to itself sales and/or advertising over the Internet. " (As the rest of the document is equally clearly written - do not read it while operating machinery)
From: Peter Parry on 12 Mar 2010 18:28
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:44:56 +0000 (UTC), Moog <efcmoog(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: >European union business "rules" are not laws. Yes they can be. If a Directive is introduced as a maximum harmonisation measure or using some of the extra provisions introduced in the Lisbon non-treaty then they become law in all member states immediately. Parliament has no say in the matter. >They are not enforcable and simply guidelines. Wrong (or at least very out of date). >Refer to the 2 year EU >warranty, for instance. It is a "directive". No it isn't. There never has been a "2 year EU warranty", just a lot of people who couldn't read. >The only laws that matter are ones passed within the UK. You have obviously been asleep for a decade. |