From: Penny on
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38414189/ns/today-todaytravel/

Petite woman bumped from plane for hefty passenger

5-foot-4 woman lost her seat so that late-arriving passenger could have two

by Michael Inbar
TODAYshow.com contributor
updated 7/26/2010 12:50:49 PM ET

It�s irritating enough to get bumped from a flight. If you are already
seated on that flight, having to walk off the plane adds a little
indignity.

But to be told to leave a plane because a too-large passenger needs two
seats? It turned into a seeing-red, head-scratching moment for one frequent
flyer.

A female sales rep (who requested anonymity in interviews) revealed her
strange tale to the Sacramento Bee, relating how she was asked to vacate
her seat aboard a Southwest Airlines flight shortly before the plane was
set to leave Las Vegas for Sacramento last week.

The woman, a petite 5-foot-4, 110 pounds, said she was flying standby when
agents sold her the last seat available on the plane. She had already
stowed her bags and was settling into her seat when an attendant told her
she had to leave immediately.

When she was told her seat was needed because a late-arriving passenger�s
girth was too wide for just one, she had some questions.

�It didn�t seem right that I should leave to accommodate someone who had
only paid for one seat,� the woman told the Sacramento Bee. But she was
even more upset because, she said, airline staff acted rudely and
inconsiderately when she asked for a further explanation.

Southwest regrets how the situation was handled, according to airline
spokeswoman Marilee McInnis. �We know that this was awkward and we should
have handled it better,� she told the Sacramento Bee.

While saying the airline plans to apologize to the bumped passenger,
McInnis said Southwest staff may have acted more swiftly than usual in
booting her because the overweight passenger in question was only 14 and
they were trying to spare the teen embarrassment.

Southwest Airlines has been kicking up controversy about weighty issues
lately � earlier this year, renowned �Clerks" director/actor Kevin Smith
was bumped from a Southwest flight because he was too big to fit into one
seat.


From: Kurt Ullman on
In article <MPG.26b7b61c3c4ac382989fe5(a)news.alt.net>,
Checkmate <LunaticFringe(a)The.Edge> wrote:

> Only 14, and already a fat slob... disgusting. Also, if the passenger was
> late
> enough that they reassigned her seat to a standby passenger, that decision
> should have been irreversible. If you can't get there on time, that's on
> you.

Yeah but since he seemed to be flying alone, I am sure that SW did not
want the liability associated with keeping an eye on the 14 y/o (let
alone the cost of feeding him) until the next flight.

--
I want to find a voracious, small-minded predator
and name it after the IRS.
Robert Bakker, paleontologist
From: h on

"Checkmate" <LunaticFringe(a)The.Edge> wrote in message
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> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate. Oh, yeah... Veronica says I should also mention that Penny
> said the
> following:
>>
>> http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38414189/ns/today-todaytravel/
>>
>> Petite woman bumped from plane for hefty passenger
>>
>> 5-foot-4 woman lost her seat so that late-arriving passenger could have
>> two
>>
>> by Michael Inbar
>> TODAYshow.com contributor
>> updated 7/26/2010 12:50:49 PM ET
>>
>> It?s irritating enough to get bumped from a flight. If you are already
>> seated on that flight, having to walk off the plane adds a little
>> indignity.
>>
>> But to be told to leave a plane because a too-large passenger needs two
>> seats? It turned into a seeing-red, head-scratching moment for one
>> frequent
>> flyer.
>>
>> A female sales rep (who requested anonymity in interviews) revealed her
>> strange tale to the Sacramento Bee, relating how she was asked to vacate
>> her seat aboard a Southwest Airlines flight shortly before the plane was
>> set to leave Las Vegas for Sacramento last week.
>>
>> The woman, a petite 5-foot-4, 110 pounds, said she was flying standby
>> when
>> agents sold her the last seat available on the plane. She had already
>> stowed her bags and was settling into her seat when an attendant told her
>> she had to leave immediately.
>>
>> When she was told her seat was needed because a late-arriving passenger?s
>> girth was too wide for just one, she had some questions.
>>
>> ?It didn?t seem right that I should leave to accommodate someone who had
>> only paid for one seat,? the woman told the Sacramento Bee. But she was
>> even more upset because, she said, airline staff acted rudely and
>> inconsiderately when she asked for a further explanation.
>>
>> Southwest regrets how the situation was handled, according to airline
>> spokeswoman Marilee McInnis. ?We know that this was awkward and we should
>> have handled it better,? she told the Sacramento Bee.
>>
>> While saying the airline plans to apologize to the bumped passenger,
>> McInnis said Southwest staff may have acted more swiftly than usual in
>> booting her because the overweight passenger in question was only 14 and
>> they were trying to spare the teen embarrassment.
>>
>> Southwest Airlines has been kicking up controversy about weighty issues
>> lately ? earlier this year, renowned ?Clerks" director/actor Kevin Smith
>> was bumped from a Southwest flight because he was too big to fit into one
>> seat.
>
> Only 14, and already a fat slob... disgusting. Also, if the passenger was
> late
> enough that they reassigned her seat to a standby passenger, that decision
> should have been irreversible. If you can't get there on time, that's on
> you.
>

Umm,. she was already in the seat. How could that be trumped by the "fat
slob"?

My personal feeling is: don't fit in the seat? Buy two seats or don't fly.
Actually, you should just stay home not eating until you fit into one seat.
But that's just me. I'm a retired athlete, but I've always been short and
"sturdy". I'm female, 50s, 5'5", bust 40", waist 29", hips 40", with a
current body fat percentage of 12%, but my shoulders are 18" across. That's
the only really uncomfy bit on a plane. There's NO PLACE to put my shoulders
unless I slouch. I can do that for awhile, but not for a flight over 8
hours. I really don't have a leg room problem because I only bring a small
carryon which, if there's no room overhead, can easily fit to one side under
seat so I still can stretch my legs.

I have NO IDEA what normal sized males do, since most of the men for whom I
make clothes have 17-19" shoulders, so clearly I am not the only person who
has this problem. Yet, I realize that this is MY PROBLEM, not the airlines'.

If you can't fit in a regular airplane seat, either buy two or stay home and
starve yourself until you can. Or, in my case, get an aisle seat and hang
your extra shoulder girth into the aisle. Not exactly rocket science.


From: Mxsmanic on
Penny writes:

> The woman, a petite 5-foot-4, 110 pounds ...

For what it's worth, the average height for women in the U.S. is 5 feet 4
inches, so she's not petite.

> ... because the overweight passenger in question was only 14 and
> they were trying to spare the teen embarrassment.

Sparing the teen embarrassment will result in her weighing about three times
as much when she's 35, just before she dies of diabetic complications and
cardiovascular disease.
From: SteveHorn[Caduceus]ForgingAsGrosvenor on

MSNBC: Petite woman bumped from plane for hefty passenger

Most sensible airlines, REFUSE TO ALLOW late-arrivibg passengers to board -
usually 20 minutes before taking off.

In other wordsd, lardbuckets should not have been allowed boarding, let alone
forcing an already boarded passengerr out of her seat.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:43:21 -0400, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <MPG.26b7b61c3c4ac382989fe5(a)news.alt.net>,
> Checkmate <LunaticFringe(a)The.Edge> wrote:

>> Only 14, and already a fat slob... disgusting. Also, if the passenger was late
>> enough that they reassigned her seat to a standby passenger, that decision
>> should have been irreversible. If you can't get there on time, that's on
>> you.

> Yeah but since he seemed to be flying alone, I am sure that SW did not
>want the liability associated with keeping an eye on the 14 y/o (let
>alone the cost of feeding him) until the next flight.