From: The Older Gentleman on
I'm currently the high bidder on this item

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120592695027

As some people know, I have a soft spot for Yamaha thumpers, haviung
owned several (two of which were XT600Es) and I want another.

When I placed the bid, the only photo was the main pic used to
illustrate the item. Very, very shiny indeed, as I am sure you will
agree.

After I'd bid, like a day or two after, the seller uploaded all the
other photos. I dunno how this was done, actually, as I didn't think you
could modify a description after a bid had been placed, but I assume he
had the urls in place pointing to where he had the pix and he hadn't
actually got the pix ready at the time.

I have a funny feeling that the original photo was not of the actual
bike being sold. For a start, it wears a carrier, not visible in any of
the other pix, and secondly...

....well, I dunno. Just a feeling. A lack of shininess in the other pix.

I've sent a message to the seller asking whether the original pic is of
the item for sale, and if so, why does it wear a rack not visible in the
other pix, and is the rack included... but no answer.

As you can see, we're dealing with a single-figure FB seller here. OTOH,
the auction description reads like a genuine seller.

As far as I'm concerned, if I bid on the strength of the original pic,
and tht pic turns out not to be of the item being sold, and the ite
turns out to be in considerably worse condition than that in the pic,
the seller can take a hike.

Any other thoughts?


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Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
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From: petrolcan on
In article <1jlcr68.9qv7aqa6zm0xN%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk>, The Older
Gentleman says...
>
> I'm currently the high bidder on this item
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120592695027
>
> As some people know, I have a soft spot for Yamaha thumpers, haviung
> owned several (two of which were XT600Es) and I want another.
>
> When I placed the bid, the only photo was the main pic used to
> illustrate the item. Very, very shiny indeed, as I am sure you will
> agree.
>
> After I'd bid, like a day or two after, the seller uploaded all the
> other photos. I dunno how this was done, actually, as I didn't think you
> could modify a description after a bid had been placed, but I assume he
> had the urls in place pointing to where he had the pix and he hadn't
> actually got the pix ready at the time.
>
> I have a funny feeling that the original photo was not of the actual
> bike being sold. For a start, it wears a carrier, not visible in any of
> the other pix, and secondly...
>
> ...well, I dunno. Just a feeling. A lack of shininess in the other pix.
>
> I've sent a message to the seller asking whether the original pic is of
> the item for sale, and if so, why does it wear a rack not visible in the
> other pix, and is the rack included... but no answer.
>
> As you can see, we're dealing with a single-figure FB seller here. OTOH,
> the auction description reads like a genuine seller.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, if I bid on the strength of the original pic,
> and tht pic turns out not to be of the item being sold, and the ite
> turns out to be in considerably worse condition than that in the pic,
> the seller can take a hike.
>
> Any other thoughts?

The first pic has a decal on it that doesn't show up on any of the other pics.
Also, for some reason there doesn't seem to be a decent pic of the RHS profile
of the bike.

Deffo a different bike that the one in the first pic.
From: JB on

"The Older Gentleman" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1jlcr68.9qv7aqa6zm0xN%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk...
> I'm currently the high bidder on this item
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120592695027
>
> As some people know, I have a soft spot for Yamaha thumpers, haviung
> owned several (two of which were XT600Es) and I want another.
>
> When I placed the bid, the only photo was the main pic used to
> illustrate the item. Very, very shiny indeed, as I am sure you will
> agree.
>
> After I'd bid, like a day or two after, the seller uploaded all the
> other photos. I dunno how this was done, actually, as I didn't think you
> could modify a description after a bid had been placed, but I assume he
> had the urls in place pointing to where he had the pix and he hadn't
> actually got the pix ready at the time.
>
> I have a funny feeling that the original photo was not of the actual
> bike being sold. For a start, it wears a carrier, not visible in any of
> the other pix, and secondly...
>
> ...well, I dunno. Just a feeling. A lack of shininess in the other pix.
>
> I've sent a message to the seller asking whether the original pic is of
> the item for sale, and if so, why does it wear a rack not visible in the
> other pix, and is the rack included... but no answer.
>
> As you can see, we're dealing with a single-figure FB seller here. OTOH,
> the auction description reads like a genuine seller.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, if I bid on the strength of the original pic,
> and tht pic turns out not to be of the item being sold, and the ite
> turns out to be in considerably worse condition than that in the pic,
> the seller can take a hike.
>
> Any other thoughts?
>
>
I had the same issue a few years back bidding on (and winning) an E36 BMW.
The photo of the car in the listing was not of the actual car I won! The
description was pretty accurate except for "full service history" actually
meant full service history _apart from_ the 23k mile gap between the last 2
services!
I walked away on this one and he gave me NPB then took it to an Ebay dispute
which I won. Wasted a days holiday viewing it and a shitload of time in the
dispute.
JB


From: CT on
JB wrote:

> The description was pretty accurate except for "full service
> history" actually meant full service history _apart from_ the 23k
> mile gap between the last 2 services!

I've always wondered about the term "full service history". Does it
mean (or *should* it mean) that there is a documented service history
*and all service intervals have been complied with* or does it mean all
services history documentation is present but with no implication that
it is indeed at regular service intervals.

In this case, as long as the seller wasn't trying to imply that there
was an (undocumented) service within that 23k miles, then they're not
actually hiding anything and it then fits the latter description.

--
Chris
From: The Older Gentleman on
petrolcan <petrolcan(a)SPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> The first pic has a decal on it that doesn't show up on any of the other pics.

Where?

> Also, for some reason there doesn't seem to be a decent pic of the RHS profile
> of the bike.

Yes, that I noticed.


--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
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