From: Owain on
Fat Sam wrote:
> I'm actually quite chuffed with how this has turned out.
> I paid �170 for it, 8 months ago, and now I've sold it on for �102. That's 8
> months driving for only �68.

Could be slightly less than that, if there was more petrol in the car
when you bought it than when you sold it!

And mind and check all the crevices for loose change before you part
with the vehicle.

Owain



From: Lord Edam de Fromage on
In article <D_GdnRwTtseOPBPbRVnytAA(a)pipex.net>,
admin(a)snowdoncomputersAaargh.co.uk says...
> "colm" <C(a)C.C.C.C> wrote in message
> news:MPG.20f8af50b03ac3fc98a2bf(a)nntp.dsl.pipex.com...
> > Akiralx [alex1385(a)blueyonder.co.uk] said:
> >>
> >> "Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)snowdoncomputersAaargh.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> news:EradnVnBMb2aORDbRVnyhQA(a)pipex.net...
> >>
> >> >> Write a receipt out saying something like "I [buyers name] hereby
> >> >> confirm that I have taken away the vehicle [vehicle registration mark]
> >> >> as advertised on ebay.
> >> >>
> >> >> Date is and both sign it, get a witness.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Paypal won't accept that as a proof of delivery in the event of a
> >> > claim.
> >>
> >> I though things like cars and white goods etc were exempt from the POD
> >> proviso in the Buyer Complaint Policy as they can't be posted?
>
> >
> > They are
>
> Ooo didn't know that.

Lots of people don't know that (usually because they don't read user
agreements)

;)


though it isn't in the user agreement any more. They took it out of that
and hid it away in a help page answer. Sales of motor vehicles and boats
are one of the few things explicitly excluded from paypal buyer
protection.

From: Andy Whitfield on
"Fat Sam" <samandjanetknox(a)tessco.net> wrote in message
news:YNpji.14161$uR5.779(a)newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> Willy Eckerslyke wrote:
>> Fat Sam wrote:
>>
>>> 4) The guy might be a dealer in car parts, and see's the car as a
>>> good source of parts, rather than a viable road vehicle?
>>
>>> It wasn't very much at all.
>>> It's an old car, which needs some work before it could even consider
>>> an MOT. It raised �102
>>
>> There you go then. Scrap values are currently so high that yer average
>> car's worth around 70 quid. If you mentioned yours having a new
>> battery or decent tyres or something, he's covered the selling price
>> before he even sees what else is worth removing.
>> So you don't need to worry about the money.
>>
>> But, you do need to consider the legal aspects of him driving it home
>> as he may be hoping to get away without insurance and not bothering to
>> register it in his own name. Make damned sure you fill in the V5c
>> properly and that the address he puts down matches the one on Paypal.
>> DVLA try to make out that the vehicle's still your responsibility
>> until they get the documents through. So you could be liable for any
>> offences he commits.
>
> Hmmm. Good point.

If the car has no tax or MOT or insurance then it is very likely you will
receive the fines, etc until the DVLA have processed the registration
document.
The reason is, there are lots of ANPR camera everywhere these days. Most on
motorways and A roads but some are now in city centres.
You could end up with fines / points on your licence every time he drives it
for the next few weeks. You could of course appeal to the DVLA but they may
only allow appeals from when they received and/or processed the registration
document. I'd ask the DVLA about it.
Also make sure the buyer brings proof of ID. E.G. driving licence, utility
bill, etc. Otherwise he may give a false name & address. Then the DVLA
and/or police may accuse you of pretending to sell the car and if the buyer
committed any serious offences (like injuring someone) they may accuse you
of the offence.
Andy


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