From: Fran on

"Mark" <i(a)dontgetlotsofspamanymore.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:12:06 +0100, "Fran" <usenet1304(a)btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mark" <i(a)dontgetlotsofspamanymore.net> wrote in message
>>news:7k91c590i56j5cse2b04f3663mf7renoft(a)4ax.com...
>>> What would people consider as adequate precautions for allowing a
>>> buyer to collect if they have paid via paypal? i.e. to prevent a
>>> chargeback or claim that they have not received the goods. I have no
>>> particular reason to mistrust this buyer, apart from them taking
>>> longer than I expected to pay.
>>>
>>
>>Don't accept PayPal full stop. Cash is the ONLY safe method for
>>collection.
>>PayPal will not accept any kind of receipt or whatever, other than an
>>online
>>tracking method. So, you've absolutely nothing protecting you against them
>>filing a chargeback or an INR.
>>
>>Refund the PayPal payment, and insist on cash.
>
> Will this not incur paypal fees?
>

Not unless you've already taken the money out! Just look for the "refund"
button on the transaction on PayPal. DO NOT simply send them money.


From: Theo Markettos on
Fran <usenet1304(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> Don't accept PayPal full stop. Cash is the ONLY safe method for
> collection. PayPal will not accept any kind of receipt or whatever, other
> than an online tracking method. So, you've absolutely nothing protecting
> you against them filing a chargeback or an INR.

Indeed. A local seller sold a load of equipment and the buyer collected.
Then the buyer did INR. Despite having CCTV evidence of the collection,
Paypal didn't want to know.

Theo
From: Harry on

"Mark" <i(a)dontgetlotsofspamanymore.net> wrote in message
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> What would people consider as adequate precautions for allowing a
> buyer to collect if they have paid via paypal? i.e. to prevent a
> chargeback or claim that they have not received the goods. I have no
> particular reason to mistrust this buyer, apart from them taking
> longer than I expected to pay.
>

Just tell your buyer that you would prefer cash on collection and refund the
Paypal payment. Most people will be reasonable.

Remember that the vast majority of people are honest and wouldn't dream of
ripping you off.


From: Kim Andrews on
In article <7k91c590i56j5cse2b04f3663mf7renoft(a)4ax.com>,
i(a)dontgetlotsofspamanymore.net says...
>
> What would people consider as adequate precautions for allowing a
> buyer to collect if they have paid via paypal? i.e. to prevent a
> chargeback or claim that they have not received the goods. I have no
> particular reason to mistrust this buyer, apart from them taking
> longer than I expected to pay.

There's no way of making that safe. I would accept it only from buyers I
had reason to consider trustworthy. Or for trivial amounts where the
likelihood of fraud was minimal anyway, and the reason given for doing
it added up.

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From: Peter Crosland on
"Fran" <usenet1304(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark" <i(a)dontgetlotsofspamanymore.net> wrote in message
> news:7k91c590i56j5cse2b04f3663mf7renoft(a)4ax.com...
>> What would people consider as adequate precautions for allowing a
>> buyer to collect if they have paid via paypal? i.e. to prevent a
>> chargeback or claim that they have not received the goods. I have no
>> particular reason to mistrust this buyer, apart from them taking
>> longer than I expected to pay.
>>
>
> Don't accept PayPal full stop. Cash is the ONLY safe method for
> collection. PayPal will not accept any kind of receipt or whatever, other
> than an online tracking method. So, you've absolutely nothing protecting
> you against them filing a chargeback or an INR.
>
> Refund the PayPal payment, and insist on cash.

There can be risks associated with taking cash such as forgeries and the
possibility of an accomplice mugging the seller. As for PayPal they would
lose in court if a seller had a receipt proving payment regardless of it not
being an online one. PayPal's insistence on it is simply not legally valid.

Peter Crosland