From: Mike on
In message <F6ydndPMBcTllFzXnZ2dnUVZ8radnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>
at 20:07:35 on Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Peter Crosland <g6jns(a)yahoo.co.uk>
wrote
>There can be risks associated with taking cash such as forgeries and the
>possibility of an accomplice mugging the seller
>
If practical, meet them in the entrance of tescos (and make sure you're
on the CCTV cameras there).
--
Mike News
From: Rob Morley on
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:26:02 +0100
Mike <turnpike_user(a)turnpike_REMOVEuser.THIScomANDTHIS> wrote:

> In message <F6ydndPMBcTllFzXnZ2dnUVZ8radnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk>
> at 20:07:35 on Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Peter Crosland <g6jns(a)yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote
> >There can be risks associated with taking cash such as forgeries and
> >the possibility of an accomplice mugging the seller
> >
> If practical, meet them in the entrance of tescos (and make sure
> you're on the CCTV cameras there).

Because they only recycle their surveillance tapes how often?

From: Advanced Kitty on
Spacker wrote:
> "Peter Crosland" <g6jns(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>> "Fran" <usenet1304(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:h9q96l$52t$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Mark" <i(a)dontgetlotsofspamanymore.net> wrote in message
>>> news:7k91c590i56j5cse2b04f3663mf7renoft(a)4ax.com...
>>>> What would people consider as adequate precautions for allowing a
>>>> buyer to collect if they have paid via paypal? i.e. to prevent a
>>>> chargeback or claim that they have not received the goods. I have
>>>> no particular reason to mistrust this buyer, apart from them taking
>>>> longer than I expected to pay.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't accept PayPal full stop. Cash is the ONLY safe method for
>>> collection. PayPal will not accept any kind of receipt or whatever,
>>> other than an online tracking method. So, you've absolutely nothing
>>> protecting you against them filing a chargeback or an INR.
>>>
>>> Refund the PayPal payment, and insist on cash.
>>
>> There can be risks associated with taking cash such as forgeries and
>> the possibility of an accomplice mugging the seller. As for PayPal
>> they would lose in court if a seller had a receipt proving payment
>> regardless of it not being an online one. PayPal's insistence on it
>> is simply not legally valid.
>>
>> Peter Crosland
>>
>
> So why are they allowed to do it?

They can do whatever they want.

It's down to the ripped vendor to get his money back on each individual
transaction.

There is no legislation that would force Paypal to accept proof of delivery
other than a RD ticket.


From: Peter Crosland on
"Advanced Kitty" <nokia.account(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:7ie5gcF317575U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Spacker wrote:
>> "Peter Crosland" <g6jns(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Fran" <usenet1304(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h9q96l$52t$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Mark" <i(a)dontgetlotsofspamanymore.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:7k91c590i56j5cse2b04f3663mf7renoft(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> What would people consider as adequate precautions for allowing a
>>>>> buyer to collect if they have paid via paypal? i.e. to prevent a
>>>>> chargeback or claim that they have not received the goods. I have
>>>>> no particular reason to mistrust this buyer, apart from them taking
>>>>> longer than I expected to pay.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't accept PayPal full stop. Cash is the ONLY safe method for
>>>> collection. PayPal will not accept any kind of receipt or whatever,
>>>> other than an online tracking method. So, you've absolutely nothing
>>>> protecting you against them filing a chargeback or an INR.
>>>>
>>>> Refund the PayPal payment, and insist on cash.
>>>
>>> There can be risks associated with taking cash such as forgeries and
>>> the possibility of an accomplice mugging the seller. As for PayPal
>>> they would lose in court if a seller had a receipt proving payment
>>> regardless of it not being an online one. PayPal's insistence on it
>>> is simply not legally valid.
>>>
>>> Peter Crosland
>>>
>>
>> So why are they allowed to do it?
>
> They can do whatever they want.
>
> It's down to the ripped vendor to get his money back on each individual
> transaction.
>
> There is no legislation that would force Paypal to accept proof of
> delivery other than a RD ticket.

If a buyer chose to take PayPal to court then provided the proof was
sufficient in the court 's view then they would find against PayPal.

Peter Crosland


From: Fran on

"Peter Crosland" <g6jns(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OfCdndQEssqSflzXnZ2dnUVZ8uudnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk...
> "Advanced Kitty" <nokia.account(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:7ie5gcF317575U1(a)mid.individual.net...
>> Spacker wrote:
>>> "Peter Crosland" <g6jns(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Fran" <usenet1304(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:h9q96l$52t$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark" <i(a)dontgetlotsofspamanymore.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:7k91c590i56j5cse2b04f3663mf7renoft(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>> What would people consider as adequate precautions for allowing a
>>>>>> buyer to collect if they have paid via paypal? i.e. to prevent a
>>>>>> chargeback or claim that they have not received the goods. I have
>>>>>> no particular reason to mistrust this buyer, apart from them taking
>>>>>> longer than I expected to pay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't accept PayPal full stop. Cash is the ONLY safe method for
>>>>> collection. PayPal will not accept any kind of receipt or whatever,
>>>>> other than an online tracking method. So, you've absolutely nothing
>>>>> protecting you against them filing a chargeback or an INR.
>>>>>
>>>>> Refund the PayPal payment, and insist on cash.
>>>>
>>>> There can be risks associated with taking cash such as forgeries and
>>>> the possibility of an accomplice mugging the seller. As for PayPal
>>>> they would lose in court if a seller had a receipt proving payment
>>>> regardless of it not being an online one. PayPal's insistence on it
>>>> is simply not legally valid.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Crosland
>>>>
>>>
>>> So why are they allowed to do it?
>>
>> They can do whatever they want.
>>
>> It's down to the ripped vendor to get his money back on each individual
>> transaction.
>>
>> There is no legislation that would force Paypal to accept proof of
>> delivery other than a RD ticket.
>
> If a buyer chose to take PayPal to court then provided the proof was
> sufficient in the court 's view then they would find against PayPal.
>

So why has no one yet done that?