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From: Napoleon on 8 Dec 2009 09:46
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:25:03 -0500, "sr" <solos42(a)uninets.net> wrote:

>If your family is fortunate enough to make $102,100 a year, Pelosi-Care will
>hit you with a $15,000 premium plus an estimated $5,300 out-of-pocket, for a
>$20,300 total, or 20% of what you earn!
>If you earn $44,000 before taxes and buy your own insurance you'll pay a
>$5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, for a
>total of $7,300 a year, that's 17% of your income!

How many people think their taxes will go up so high that they will be
paying the amount per year that is stated above, if single-payer
nationalized health care is passed?

They won't. Not even close. Do you even think your taxes will increase
by 20K (for upper income earners) and 7K (for lower income earners)
per year to pay for Medicare for All? They won't. It'll be so much
less, plus NO MORE MEDICAL BILLS on top of the insurance premiums.

That's why we will NEVER have single payer nationalized health care
like the entire civilized world, because Americans are too stupid to
realize how much we'd save in our individual lives. All Americans care
about is NO NEW TAXES!
From: Jim Jones on 8 Dec 2009 13:43
Napoleon wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:25:03 -0500, "sr" <solos42(a)uninets.net> wrote:
>
>> If your family is fortunate enough to make $102,100 a year,
>> Pelosi-Care will hit you with a $15,000 premium plus an estimated
>> $5,300 out-of-pocket, for a $20,300 total, or 20% of what you earn!
>> If you earn $44,000 before taxes and buy your own insurance you'll
>> pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket
>> expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, that's 17% of your income!
>
> How many people think their taxes will go up so high that they will be
> paying the amount per year that is stated above, if single-payer
> nationalized health care is passed?
>
> They won't. Not even close. Do you even think your taxes will increase
> by 20K (for upper income earners) and 7K (for lower income earners)
> per year to pay for Medicare for All? They won't. It'll be so much
> less, plus NO MORE MEDICAL BILLS on top of the insurance premiums.
>
> That's why we will NEVER have single payer nationalized health care
> like the entire civilized world, because Americans are too stupid to
> realize how much we'd save in our individual lives. All Americans care
> about is NO NEW TAXES!

Have fun explaining how americans got medicare and social security.


From: Dave C. on 8 Dec 2009 01:33
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:46:58 -0500
Napoleon <anarch(a)666yes.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:25:03 -0500, "sr" <solos42(a)uninets.net> wrote:
>
> >If your family is fortunate enough to make $102,100 a year,
> >Pelosi-Care will hit you with a $15,000 premium plus an estimated
> >$5,300 out-of-pocket, for a $20,300 total, or 20% of what you earn!
> >If you earn $44,000 before taxes and buy your own insurance you'll
> >pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket
> >expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, that's 17% of your income!
>
> How many people think their taxes will go up so high that they will be
> paying the amount per year that is stated above, if single-payer
> nationalized health care is passed?

I'd say they are optimistic. The top earners in this country could be
in a 70% tax bracket soon. It's getting so bad in this country that we
are starting to lean toward that old joke about the simplified tax form:
Line 1: How much did you make last year?
Line 2: Send it in!
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