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From: Tomes on 9 Jul 2007 17:23
Folks,
It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was right
there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the ceiling
fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is that I
don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover from
the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size as
the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to be
able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.

What to do? Has anyone done this and what was your strategy?
Thanks for any help here,
Tomes



From: Rich Greenberg on 9 Jul 2007 19:55
In article <OHxki.6109$Od7.5205(a)newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Tomes <askme(a)here.net> wrote:
>Folks,
>It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
>bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was right
>there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the ceiling
>fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is that I
>don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover from
>the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size as
>the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
>the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to be
>able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.

Why do you think you need to get the box out of the ceiling? You should
be able to just remove the screws holding it onto the box. This should
allow the fan/light to drop down enough that you can get to the wireing.
Disconnect it, remove, install new one in the reverse of removal.

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From: krw on 9 Jul 2007 23:06
In article <OHxki.6109$Od7.5205(a)newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
askme(a)here.net says...
> Folks,
> It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
> bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was right
> there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the ceiling
> fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is that I
> don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover from
> the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size as
> the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
> the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to be
> able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.
>
> What to do? Has anyone done this and what was your strategy?

Sure, I've done it. You start by ripping the ceiling out. ;-)

I ended up having to take about a 12"x12" piece out because the power
entered at the opposite end of the new fan, so had to make the hole
portable. ;-) I also had to knock a 6"x6" hole near the wall so I
could get at the wall vent (where the problem started). That's the
nice thing about sheetrock. It's easy to patch, particularly small
holes like this.


--
Keith
From: John A. Weeks III on 10 Jul 2007 08:03
In article <f6uhtc$nnf$1(a)reader2.panix.com>,
richgr(a)panix.com (Rich Greenberg) wrote:

> In article <OHxki.6109$Od7.5205(a)newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> Tomes <askme(a)here.net> wrote:
> >Folks,
> >It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
> >bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was right
> >there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the ceiling
> >fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is that I
> >don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover from
> >the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size as
> >the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
> >the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to be
> >able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.
>
> Why do you think you need to get the box out of the ceiling? You should
> be able to just remove the screws holding it onto the box. This should
> allow the fan/light to drop down enough that you can get to the wireing.
> Disconnect it, remove, install new one in the reverse of removal.

One issue to consider is if the box was reinforced for a ceiling
fan. If there was a fan there before, and it was installed up
to code, then you should be good to go. In that case, Rich's
advice is a good as gold...you should be able to make the swap-
a-roo without any cutting into the ceiling.

-john-

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From: Tomes on 10 Jul 2007 10:15
"John A. Weeks III" ...
> Rich Greenberg:
>> Tomes :
>> >Folks,
>> >It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
>> >bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was
>> >right
>> >there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the
>> >ceiling
>> >fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is
>> >that I
>> >don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover
>> >from
>> >the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same
>> >size as
>> >the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can
>> >get
>> >the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to
>> >be
>> >able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.
>>
>> Why do you think you need to get the box out of the ceiling? You
>> should
>> be able to just remove the screws holding it onto the box. This should
>> allow the fan/light to drop down enough that you can get to the
>> wireing.
>> Disconnect it, remove, install new one in the reverse of removal.
>
> One issue to consider is if the box was reinforced for a ceiling
> fan. If there was a fan there before, and it was installed up
> to code, then you should be good to go. In that case, Rich's
> advice is a good as gold...you should be able to make the swap-
> a-roo without any cutting into the ceiling.
>

So the advice here is to just replace the guts inside the box and not use
the new box that comes with the new assembly. Hmmm. I am thinking that
the new stuff really wants to use the new box as it is already all put
together and all. I'll take another look at the stuff and consider this.
Thanks for a thought that I had not considered yet.
Tomes


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