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From: Napoleon on 11 Aug 2010 09:19
More and more people are asking for your social security number when
you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
instead.

I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
to just anyone for no reason.

Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
From: Bill on 11 Aug 2010 10:38
"Napoleon" wrote in message
> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
> instead...
>

Maybe they are running a credit, criminal, and drivers license check?

If someone has good credit, no criminal background, and a good driving
record, then that might indicate they know basic math, can plan ahead, and
can follow rules. A responsible person.

Then what people think of others is often a reflection of themselves. If
someone is honest, they would tend to think others are honest and trust
others. If someone is dishonest, they would tend to think others are
dishonest as well. So the way someone responds to the request for their SSN
might show if the person is trusting of others or not. Also can the person
do what is requested of them, or is the person going to be a trouble maker
constantly informing the manager of what his/her "rights" are, etc.?

The company is hiring a total stranger. They are best to find out as much as
possible about the job applicant before hiring...


From: MAS on 11 Aug 2010 19:01
On 8/11/2010 9:19 AM, Napoleon wrote:
> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
> instead.
>
> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
> to just anyone for no reason.
>
> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.


Some employers are now checking your credit status before they hire.

Marsha
From: Annie Woughman on 11 Aug 2010 19:52


"MAS" <mas(a)bbbb.net> wrote in message news:i3va3m$o4a$2(a)news.datemas.de...
> On 8/11/2010 9:19 AM, Napoleon wrote:
>> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>> instead.
>>
>> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
>> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
>> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
>> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
>> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
>> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
>> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
>> to just anyone for no reason.
>>
>> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
>
>
> Some employers are now checking your credit status before they hire.
>
> Marsha

Employers have been doing credit checks for years. It is just recently that
some states are trying to pass laws to make credit checks illegal as a
condition of hiring because of the mess the economy is in. Too many people
have been caught in the vicious cycle of being downsized because of the bad
economy, making it kind of tough to meet one's financial obligations, which
in turn can lead to a bad credit rating--making it MORE difficult to get a
job in a shrinking market, continuing right into a downward spiral that one
might never recover from.

From: George on 11 Aug 2010 20:26
On 8/11/2010 10:38 AM, Bill wrote:
> "Napoleon" wrote in message
>> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>> instead...
>>
>
> Maybe they are running a credit, criminal, and drivers license check?
>
> If someone has good credit, no criminal background, and a good driving
> record, then that might indicate they know basic math, can plan ahead, and
> can follow rules. A responsible person.
>
> Then what people think of others is often a reflection of themselves. If
> someone is honest, they would tend to think others are honest and trust
> others. If someone is dishonest, they would tend to think others are
> dishonest as well. So the way someone responds to the request for their SSN
> might show if the person is trusting of others or not. Also can the person
> do what is requested of them, or is the person going to be a trouble maker
> constantly informing the manager of what his/her "rights" are, etc.?
>

And people who simply want to maintain their privacy are offended when
others spout nonsense like they must be dishonest or have something to
hide. Maybe some folks want to put their entire life on facebook and
give any information to anyone but others don't.




> The company is hiring a total stranger. They are best to find out as much as
> possible about the job applicant before hiring...
>
>

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