From: Julie Bove on

"Nomen Nescio" <nobody(a)dizum.com> wrote in message
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> The Tucson Sunflower Farmers Markets location (they have many other
> multistate locations) I have shopped at is really badly managed. Most
> "farmers" would be embarrassed or fail if they managed their farms like
> this place is managed.
>
> Have had this happen several times now, where the cashier refuses to
> give a raincheck and makes the customer and anyone else in line wait
> several minutes while the clerks,who should have kept the stock up go
> about looking the back room to see if they have more stock and then wait
> until they shelve the product. They are trying to obstruct the issuance
> of rainchecks by this tactic.
>
> I have worked to limit my shopping at Sunflower,the only advantage being
> they are close to my location. But it is a PITA to shop there, very poor
> experiences.
>
> This refusing to issue a timely raincheck will be reported to the proper
> consumer and regulatory agencies.
>
> On several occasions I have witnessed cashiers loudly arguing with
> customers. When you ask them to find you a sale item they cannot and do
> not want to look for it either.
>
> I have had several instances of bad produce that was hidden from
> view-celery that was rotten in the middle, same for coconuts. When I
> asked one of the clerks about this he said it happens frequently because
> they cannot get the coconuts fresh. So why are they selling them then?
>
> Many times when I asked for double bagging of groceries my request went
> ignored and had to return to the checkout again to get them double bagged.
>
> The FREQUENTLY are out of ad sale items early in the ad time period and
> more frequently than other stores they misscan or wrongly ring up items
> over the true amount. Yet, in contrast to Fry's or Safeway they will not
> give the full purchase price back on items they have mis-scanned.
>
> They have NO corporate headquarters and their CEO Mike Gilligan in
> boulder does not reply to faxes or consumer complaints.
>
> They advertise that they have lower prices, but like most corporate
> boasting, it's not true. Their prices on produce are sometimes lower
> than the major markets, but not the lowest.
>
> Food City has the lowest prices,(if your not predjudice and don't mind
> shopping at a mostly hispanic staffed store), Food City is significantly
> lower than Sunflower. Sunflower is filled mostly with yuppie, upper
> middle class shoppers who pay high prices for specialty items. I mean
> ridiculously high in most cases-West and East Coast high.
>
> There are at least 3 major supermarkets all within 1-2 km of the
> Sunflower on Speedway: Safeway at grant and swan, Fry's at craycroft and
> swan, Grocery Outlet at speedway and craycroft. Thats just the major
> close ones. For the best prices on non produce items go to Fry's. For
> the best meat deals and sale deals, watch the ads and go to Safeway. For
> the best deep discounts go to Grocery Outlet. And MOST of all for the
> best, deeply discounted produce go to Food City, a few more kms away,
> but not far. Additionally, there are Albertsons at campbell and pima.
> Bashas has very good prices and Albertsons prices have really come down
> lately, so they are no longer high.

Somehow I don't think your bad mouthing them on a newsgroup is going to help
very much. I saw vote with your feet! Just don't go there any more.

I don't personally care too much for Grocery Outlet, although I have been to
only two of them. One in Oakland, CA and one in Lynnwood, WA. They seem to
have a lot of undesirable types shopping in there. A lot of the brands they
carry are odd. Some foods come from other countries. You just never know
what you might find. But I guess if all you care about is the price, then
it might be the place for you. Me? I prefer organic foods and preferably
locally grown.


From: Julie Bove on

"Arnie" <Arnie(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" <juliebove(a)verizon.net> wrote in
> news:hou6nv$p1k$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:
>
>>
>> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody(a)dizum.com> wrote in message
>> news:a423bca15036f0da15818279095c2241(a)dizum.com...
>>> The Tucson Sunflower Farmers Markets location (they have
> many other
>>> multistate locations) I have shopped at is really badly
> managed. Most
>>> "farmers" would be embarrassed or fail if they managed
> their farms
>>> like this place is managed.
>>>
>>> Have had this happen several times now, where the cashier
> refuses to
>>> give a raincheck and makes the customer and anyone else in
> line wait
>>> several minutes while the clerks,who should have kept the
> stock up go
>>> about looking the back room to see if they have more stock
> and then
>>> wait until they shelve the product. They are trying to
> obstruct the
>>> issuance of rainchecks by this tactic.
>>>
>>> I have worked to limit my shopping at Sunflower,the only
> advantage
>>> being they are close to my location. But it is a PITA to
> shop there,
>>> very poor experiences.
>>>
>>> This refusing to issue a timely raincheck will be reported
> to the
>>> proper consumer and regulatory agencies.
>>>
>>> On several occasions I have witnessed cashiers loudly
> arguing with
>>> customers. When you ask them to find you a sale item they
> cannot and
>>> do not want to look for it either.
>>>
>>> I have had several instances of bad produce that was
> hidden from
>>> view-celery that was rotten in the middle, same for
> coconuts. When I
>>> asked one of the clerks about this he said it happens
> frequently
>>> because they cannot get the coconuts fresh. So why are
> they selling
>>> them then?
>>>
>>> Many times when I asked for double bagging of groceries my
> request
>>> went ignored and had to return to the checkout again to
> get them
>>> double bagged.
>>>
>>> The FREQUENTLY are out of ad sale items early in the ad
> time period
>>> and more frequently than other stores they misscan or
> wrongly ring up
>>> items over the true amount. Yet, in contrast to Fry's or
> Safeway they
>>> will not give the full purchase price back on items they
> have
>>> mis-scanned.
>>>
>>> They have NO corporate headquarters and their CEO Mike
> Gilligan in
>>> boulder does not reply to faxes or consumer complaints.
>>>
>>> They advertise that they have lower prices, but like most
> corporate
>>> boasting, it's not true. Their prices on produce are
> sometimes lower
>>> than the major markets, but not the lowest.
>>>
>>> Food City has the lowest prices,(if your not predjudice
> and don't
>>> mind shopping at a mostly hispanic staffed store), Food
> City is
>>> significantly lower than Sunflower. Sunflower is filled
> mostly with
>>> yuppie, upper middle class shoppers who pay high prices
> for specialty
>>> items. I mean ridiculously high in most cases-West and
> East Coast
>>> high.
>>>
>>> There are at least 3 major supermarkets all within 1-2 km
> of the
>>> Sunflower on Speedway: Safeway at grant and swan, Fry's at
> craycroft
>>> and swan, Grocery Outlet at speedway and craycroft. Thats
> just the
>>> major close ones. For the best prices on non produce
> items go to
>>> Fry's. For the best meat deals and sale deals, watch the
> ads and go
>>> to Safeway. For the best deep discounts go to Grocery
> Outlet. And
>>> MOST of all for the best, deeply discounted produce go to
> Food City,
>>> a few more kms away, but not far. Additionally, there are
> Albertsons
>>> at campbell and pima. Bashas has very good prices and
> Albertsons
>>> prices have really come down lately, so they are no longer
> high.
>>
>> Somehow I don't think your bad mouthing them on a newsgroup
> is going
>> to help very much. I saw vote with your feet! Just don't
> go there
>> any more.
>>
>> I don't personally care too much for Grocery Outlet,
> although I have
>> been to only two of them. One in Oakland, CA and one in
> Lynnwood, WA.
>
> I have to be careful what I buy there, because they often
> sell things that are past the expiration date. Also their
> prices are not lower than major chains for most items.
> Occasionally they have exceptional deals, but not that many,
> nor often. They tend to not regularily stock things, but they
> do not advertise things they don't have like I have seen at
> Sunflower Markets. Also I agree the cashiers and other
> persons at Sunflower have BAD attitudes.
>
>> They seem to have a lot of undesirable types shopping in
> there. A
>> lot of the brands they carry are odd. Some foods come from
> other
>> countries. You just never know what you might find. But I
> guess if
>> all you care about is the price, then it might be the place
> for you.
>
> I used to think the same way, but I have found that brand and
> country of origin is not that important. The exception is
> China, I am careful about products originating from China,
> although I have not been burned by that country yet. As far
> as the people who shop there, who cares what class they are.
> I care about food and value for my money.
>
>
>> Me? I prefer organic foods and preferably locally grown.
>>
>
> Yeah organic and locally grown does not equate with better
> quality. It's a myth in my opinion. When organic and regular
> are close in price I will take organic to avoid any
> possibility of pesticide residue, but I think the risk is
> greatly exaggerated. Also organic frequently spoils much
> quicker. Also Sunflower Market sells bulk items alot in
> bacteria catching bins and the yuppies who stick their hands
> in those bins aren't any cleaner bacterially than the people
> who shop at Grocery Outlet that does not sell bulk bacteria
> magnet foods. I have gotten seriously sick from stuff sold in
> bulk containers, they are exposed to people's hands, the open
> air and other debris and contaminants. Not good.

I will no longer buy bulk foods. We have food allergies and for risk of
cross contamination, it's just not worth it! Also, I have seen children
take bites of things and stick them back in those bins. Another problem is
that you don't know how fresh those things are.

Luckily my little health food store is just around the corner. They have
the best prices on foods. For things like popcorn, beans, nuts, seeds and
even some gluten free pasta, they buy in bulk and package it themselves. It
is always fresh and good. They are also good to place special orders for
me.

If there were a Grocery Outlet near me, I might shop there more often. But
there is not. I do occasionally get canned goods at places like Big Lots or
Stupid Prices. I don't go to those places very often either because they
also are not near me.

The two places that save me the most money are Costco and Target. With some
caveats. Much of what Costco sells is in a package that is too large for
our needs. Sometimes I buy some things in multiples and donate some to the
food bank. In these cases I am still saving money over buying at the
grocery store. Each week I buy a container of sliced apples. My daughter
eats these daily in her lunch. I also buy her juice and bottled water
there. I like their cat litter in the green jug. I also get cheese, meat
and some other produce. And some canned goods. Black pepper and dried
parsley. I use a lot of that!

Although Target has very good prices, I must be cautious there now after
having bought badly spoiled lunch meat. It came out of the package
literally soupy. I also saw some ham in the case that was green. In both
cases, the meat was not expired. I feel that they are not careful to keep
the food in refrigeration. But they have excellent prices on canned soups
and cereals.


From: Jacquie on
Report this to the Health Department...about the food not being Fresh. If
you think their policies aren't fair and they are screwing customers report
it to Terry Goddard's people...
http://www.azag.gov/consumer/complaintformintro.html

We don't have a Sunflower close by....all we have is Safeway and Fry's. I
prefer Fry's because Safeway doesn't carry Shamrock Dairy Foods, and have
found Fry's meat better then Safeway's. I found Food City's produce not up
to par...besides I hate fighting Fruit Flies for my fruit :) We had a
Bashes close by but they closed down...a new Wal-Mart next door killed their
business.


"Nomen Nescio" <nobody(a)dizum.com> wrote in message
news:a423bca15036f0da15818279095c2241(a)dizum.com...
> The Tucson Sunflower Farmers Markets location (they have many other
> multistate locations) I have shopped at is really badly managed. Most
> "farmers" would be embarrassed or fail if they managed their farms like
> this place is managed.
>
> Have had this happen several times now, where the cashier refuses to
> give a raincheck and makes the customer and anyone else in line wait
> several minutes while the clerks,who should have kept the stock up go
> about looking the back room to see if they have more stock and then wait
> until they shelve the product. They are trying to obstruct the issuance
> of rainchecks by this tactic.
>
> I have worked to limit my shopping at Sunflower,the only advantage being
> they are close to my location. But it is a PITA to shop there, very poor
> experiences.
>
> This refusing to issue a timely raincheck will be reported to the proper
> consumer and regulatory agencies.
>
> On several occasions I have witnessed cashiers loudly arguing with
> customers. When you ask them to find you a sale item they cannot and do
> not want to look for it either.
>
> I have had several instances of bad produce that was hidden from
> view-celery that was rotten in the middle, same for coconuts. When I
> asked one of the clerks about this he said it happens frequently because
> they cannot get the coconuts fresh. So why are they selling them then?
>
> Many times when I asked for double bagging of groceries my request went
> ignored and had to return to the checkout again to get them double bagged.
>
> The FREQUENTLY are out of ad sale items early in the ad time period and
> more frequently than other stores they misscan or wrongly ring up items
> over the true amount. Yet, in contrast to Fry's or Safeway they will not
> give the full purchase price back on items they have mis-scanned.
>
> They have NO corporate headquarters and their CEO Mike Gilligan in
> boulder does not reply to faxes or consumer complaints.
>
> They advertise that they have lower prices, but like most corporate
> boasting, it's not true. Their prices on produce are sometimes lower
> than the major markets, but not the lowest.
>
> Food City has the lowest prices,(if your not predjudice and don't mind
> shopping at a mostly hispanic staffed store), Food City is significantly
> lower than Sunflower. Sunflower is filled mostly with yuppie, upper
> middle class shoppers who pay high prices for specialty items. I mean
> ridiculously high in most cases-West and East Coast high.
>
> There are at least 3 major supermarkets all within 1-2 km of the
> Sunflower on Speedway: Safeway at grant and swan, Fry's at craycroft and
> swan, Grocery Outlet at speedway and craycroft. Thats just the major
> close ones. For the best prices on non produce items go to Fry's. For
> the best meat deals and sale deals, watch the ads and go to Safeway. For
> the best deep discounts go to Grocery Outlet. And MOST of all for the
> best, deeply discounted produce go to Food City, a few more kms away,
> but not far. Additionally, there are Albertsons at campbell and pima.
> Bashas has very good prices and Albertsons prices have really come down
> lately, so they are no longer high.
>
>


From: AZtraveler on
"Jacquie" <happikat694(a)earthlink.net> wrote in
news:fLKdndBZA8G_4y7WnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com:

> Report this to the Health Department...about the food not
being Fresh.
> If you think their policies aren't fair and they are
screwing
> customers report it to Terry Goddard's people...
> http://www.azag.gov/consumer/complaintformintro.html
>
> We don't have a Sunflower close by....all we have is
Safeway and
> Fry's. I prefer Fry's because Safeway doesn't carry
Shamrock Dairy
> Foods, and have found Fry's meat better then Safeway's. I
found Food
> City's produce not up to par...besides I hate fighting
Fruit Flies for
> my fruit :) We had a Bashes close by but they closed
down...a new
> Wal-Mart next door killed their business.
>
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody(a)dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:a423bca15036f0da15818279095c2241(a)dizum.com...
>> The Tucson Sunflower Farmers Markets location (they have
many other
>> multistate locations) I have shopped at is really badly
managed. Most
>> "farmers" would be embarrassed or fail if they managed
their farms
>> like this place is managed.
>>
>> Have had this happen several times now, where the cashier
refuses to
>> give a raincheck and makes the customer and anyone else in
line wait
>> several minutes while the clerks,who should have kept the
stock up go
>> about looking the back room to see if they have more stock
and then
>> wait until they shelve the product. They are trying to
obstruct the
>> issuance of rainchecks by this tactic.
>>
>> I have worked to limit my shopping at Sunflower,the only
advantage
>> being they are close to my location. But it is a PITA to
shop there,
>> very poor experiences.
>>
>> This refusing to issue a timely raincheck will be reported
to the
>> proper consumer and regulatory agencies.
>>
>> On several occasions I have witnessed cashiers loudly
arguing with
>> customers. When you ask them to find you a sale item they
cannot and
>> do not want to look for it either.
>>
>> I have had several instances of bad produce that was
hidden from
>> view-celery that was rotten in the middle, same for
coconuts. When I
>> asked one of the clerks about this he said it happens
frequently
>> because they cannot get the coconuts fresh. So why are
they selling
>> them then?
>>
>> Many times when I asked for double bagging of groceries my
request
>> went ignored and had to return to the checkout again to
get them
>> double bagged.
>>
>> The FREQUENTLY are out of ad sale items early in the ad
time period
>> and more frequently than other stores they misscan or
wrongly ring up
>> items over the true amount. Yet, in contrast to Fry's or
Safeway they
>> will not give the full purchase price back on items they
have
>> mis-scanned.
>>
>> They have NO corporate headquarters and their CEO Mike
Gilligan in
>> boulder does not reply to faxes or consumer complaints.
>>
>> They advertise that they have lower prices, but like most
corporate
>> boasting, it's not true. Their prices on produce are
sometimes lower
>> than the major markets, but not the lowest.
>>
>> Food City has the lowest prices,(if your not predjudice
and don't
>> mind shopping at a mostly hispanic staffed store), Food
City is
>> significantly lower than Sunflower. Sunflower is filled
mostly with
>> yuppie, upper middle class shoppers who pay high prices
for specialty
>> items. I mean ridiculously high in most cases-West and
East Coast
>> high.
>>
>> There are at least 3 major supermarkets all within 1-2 km
of the
>> Sunflower on Speedway: Safeway at grant and swan, Fry's at
craycroft
>> and swan, Grocery Outlet at speedway and craycroft. Thats
just the
>> major close ones. For the best prices on non produce
items go to
>> Fry's. For the best meat deals and sale deals, watch the
ads and go
>> to Safeway. For the best deep discounts go to Grocery
Outlet. And
>> MOST of all for the best, deeply discounted produce go to
Food City,
>> a few more kms away, but not far. Additionally, there are
Albertsons
>> at campbell and pima. Bashas has very good prices and
Albertsons
>> prices have really come down lately, so they are no longer
high.
>>

Thanks for the tips on the AZ Attorney General's Consumer
webpage. Yes, they have a consumer protection division too.
Glad he is running for Gov., he has done a good job with very
limited resources as Attny Gen.

I also have bought stuff from the Sunflower store that turned
out to be bad. I believe I got violently ill from produce
bought there and am now very careful about anything purchased
at Sunflower.

Contrast to Safeway, where I never have to worry about bad
produce, they won't sell it. Most of my shopping is now at
Frys, but there is very little regulation of businesses in
general in AZ and they get away with murder here.
From: AZtraveler on
"Jacquie" <happikat694(a)earthlink.net> wrote in
news:fLKdndBZA8G_4y7WnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com:

> We don't have a Sunflower close by....all we have is
Safeway and
> Fry's. I prefer Fry's because Safeway doesn't carry
Shamrock Dairy
> Foods, and have found Fry's meat better then Safeway's. I
found Food
> City's produce not up to par...besides I hate fighting
Fruit Flies for
> my fruit :) We had a Bashes close by but they closed
down...a new
> Wal-Mart next door killed their business.

I haven't had problems with fruit flies at Food City, but
those can be annoying.

Yeah Bashas is good. I like their owner, peoples candidate
for gov. Unlike the original poster's experience with the
unresponsive CEO at Sunflower, Fry's always answers fully and
completely any customer complaints. Good corporate policy,
they, unlike others, know that the customer is their
business. I have noticed they make improvements in their
stores in response to complaint, enlightened management. If
you look at the picture of the owner of Sunflower he looks
VERY old and decrepit,maybe the company needs new blood.



>
>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody(a)dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:a423bca15036f0da15818279095c2241(a)dizum.com...
>> The Tucson Sunflower Farmers Markets location (they have
many other
>> multistate locations) I have shopped at is really badly
managed. Most
>> "farmers" would be embarrassed or fail if they managed
their farms
>> like this place is managed.
>>
>> Have had this happen several times now, where the cashier
refuses to
>> give a raincheck and makes the customer and anyone else in
line wait
>> several minutes while the clerks,who should have kept the
stock up go
>> about looking the back room to see if they have more stock
and then
>> wait until they shelve the product. They are trying to
obstruct the
>> issuance
>

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