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From: Stormin Mormon on 13 Jun 2010 07:52 The cylinder design is rather different. The one you sent the link, isn't even near close to the design of the Schlage F line cylinder. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Dan Lanciani" <ddl(a)danlan.*com> wrote in message news:1355329(a)news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM... In article <1276414852.824905(a)news01.syix.com>, shoaf(a)nospamsyix.com (Roger Shoaf) writes: | | "Dan Lanciani" <ddl(a)danlan.*com> wrote in message | news:1355328(a)news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM... | > Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with | > something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)? | > | > Dan Lanciani | > ddl(a)danlan.*com | | In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series deadbolts the | only keyway available is the C keyway. I was afraid of that. I assume something like this: http://absupply.net/gms-k001-knob--lever-cylinder-with-schlage-e-keyway-for-schlage-locks-8816.aspx will fit the deadbolts but be too long for the F series knobs I have. | The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series are | available in any lettered keyway. | | The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F series | lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin cylinder. Hmm. That must be what I have (early 90's?). So in theory I could move some of those to where I want an E keyway (after replacing the cylinder) and replace them with newer F series. Everything would still look pretty much the same without having to upgrade all the knobs. Are 5-pin E keyway cylinders available? Dan Lanciani ddl(a)danlan.*com
From: Roger Shoaf on 13 Jun 2010 18:20 "Dan Lanciani" <ddl(a)danlan.*com> wrote in message news:1355329(a)news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM... > In article <1276414852.824905(a)news01.syix.com>, shoaf(a)nospamsyix.com (Roger Shoaf) writes: > | > | "Dan Lanciani" <ddl(a)danlan.*com> wrote in message > | news:1355328(a)news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM... > | > Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with > | > something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)? > | > > | > Dan Lanciani > | > ddl(a)danlan.*com > | > | In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series deadbolts the > | only keyway available is the C keyway. > > I was afraid of that. I assume something like this: > > http://absupply.net/gms-k001-knob--lever-cylinder-with-schlage-e-keyway-for-schlage-locks-8816.aspx > > will fit the deadbolts but be too long for the F series knobs I have. > Be careful these aftermarket cylinders have only a limited application. > | The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series are > | available in any lettered keyway. > | > | The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F series > | lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin cylinder. > > Hmm. That must be what I have (early 90's?). So in theory I could move > some of those to where I want an E keyway (after replacing the cylinder) > and replace them with newer F series. Everything would still look pretty > much the same without having to upgrade all the knobs. Are 5-pin E keyway > cylinders available? > > Dan Lanciani > ddl(a)danlan.*com Early 90's is probably too new. it was only the first generation of the F lock that would take a std. cyl. But let's see if I can be of help. Exactly what are you trying to accomplish? To hey your house the same as your office or something? -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff.
From: Dan Lanciani on 13 Jun 2010 20:19 In article <1276467542.376798(a)news01.syix.com>, shoaf(a)nospamsyix.com (Roger Shoaf) writes: | | "Dan Lanciani" <ddl(a)danlan.*com> wrote in message | news:1355329(a)news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM... | > In article <1276414852.824905(a)news01.syix.com>, shoaf(a)nospamsyix.com | (Roger Shoaf) writes: | > | | > | "Dan Lanciani" <ddl(a)danlan.*com> wrote in message | > | news:1355328(a)news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM... | > | > Is it possible to get Schlage residential grade lock hardware with | > | > something other than the normal C keyway (preferably E or CE)? | > | > | > | > Dan Lanciani | > | > ddl(a)danlan.*com | > | | > | In residential grade like the F series or the cheaper B series deadbolts | the | > | only keyway available is the C keyway. | > | > I was afraid of that. I assume something like this: | > | > | http://absupply.net/gms-k001-knob--lever-cylinder-with-schlage-e-keyway-for-schlage-locks-8816.aspx | | | > | > will fit the deadbolts but be too long for the F series knobs I have. | > | | Be careful these aftermarket cylinders have only a limited application. | | | > | The better B series dead bolts and all of the A series and D series are | > | available in any lettered keyway. | > | | > | The exception to this general rule was the original design of the F | series | > | lock (long out of production) that used the standard style 5 pin | cylinder. | > | > Hmm. That must be what I have (early 90's?). So in theory I could move | > some of those to where I want an E keyway (after replacing the cylinder) | > and replace them with newer F series. Everything would still look pretty | > much the same without having to upgrade all the knobs. Are 5-pin E keyway | > cylinders available? | > | > Dan Lanciani | > ddl(a)danlan.*com | | Early 90's is probably too new. it was only the first generation of the F | lock that would take a std. cyl. It's possible the one I looked at was older, so I should make a better inventory. | But let's see if I can be of help. Exactly what are you trying to | accomplish? To hey your house the same as your office or something? I have two adjacent houses and (small attached) office master-keyed to my liking. It's all residential hardware with C keyways. I just bought another house. I would like to make things slightly harder by using E or CE keyways there with an H key for my master, but only if it is a very low-effort project. Doing anything more interesting (even going to 6 pins) creates a cascade of work... Dan Lanciani ddl(a)danlan.*com
From: Roger Shoaf on 14 Jun 2010 02:47 "Dan Lanciani" <ddl(a)danlan.*com> wrote in message news:1355330(a)news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM... > In article <1276467542.376798(a)news01.syix.com>, shoaf(a)nospamsyix.com (Roger Shoaf) writes: > | > | Early 90's is probably too new. it was only the first generation of the F > | lock that would take a std. cyl. > > It's possible the one I looked at was older, so I should make a better > inventory. > > | But let's see if I can be of help. Exactly what are you trying to > | accomplish? To hey your house the same as your office or something? > > I have two adjacent houses and (small attached) office master-keyed to my > liking. It's all residential hardware with C keyways. I just bought another > house. I would like to make things slightly harder by using E or CE keyways > there with an H key for my master, but only if it is a very low-effort project. > Doing anything more interesting (even going to 6 pins) creates a cascade of > work... > Don, You are making life difficult for yourself. By my count you have a masterkey system with 4 different keys. This is very much doable with a standard 5 pin system. The need for multiple keyways comes in in much larger systems like multi story hotels and the like. I will give you a hint, if you keep your eyes open on e-bay, you might score some nice Schlage A series locks, and those will outlive you. The F series is junk. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff.
From: richardlhoward on 14 Jun 2010 12:53
On Jun 14, 1:47 am, "Roger Shoaf" <sh...(a)nospamsyix.com> wrote: > "Dan Lanciani" <ddl(a)danlan.*com> wrote in message > > news:1355330(a)news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM... > > > > > > > In article <1276467542.376...(a)news01.syix.com>, sh...(a)nospamsyix.com > (Roger Shoaf) writes: > > | > > | Early 90's is probably too new. it was only the first generation of the > F > > | lock that would take a std. cyl. > > > It's possible the one I looked at was older, so I should make a better > > inventory. > > > | But let's see if I can be of help. Exactly what are you trying to > > | accomplish? To hey your house the same as your office or something? > > > I have two adjacent houses and (small attached) office master-keyed to my > > liking. It's all residential hardware with C keyways. I just bought > another > > house. I would like to make things slightly harder by using E or CE > keyways > > there with an H key for my master, but only if it is a very low-effort > project. > > Doing anything more interesting (even going to 6 pins) creates a cascade > of > > work... > > Don, > > You are making life difficult for yourself. > > By my count you have a masterkey system with 4 different keys. > > This is very much doable with a standard 5 pin system. > > The need for multiple keyways comes in in much larger systems like multi > story hotels and the like. > > I will give you a hint, if you keep your eyes open on e-bay, you might score > some nice Schlage A series locks, and those will outlive you. The F series > is junk. > > -- > > Roger Shoaf > > About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then > they come up with this striped stuff. Give me a call and I will walk you through this. Rich Howard @ www.absupply.net 877-631-9411 |