From: David Uri on
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:19:27 +0100, "Joe Lee" <invalid(a)noaddress>
wrote:

>When listing you simply state the VAT inclusive price. (As you know - or
>should know - this is a legal requirement when offerring goods for sale to
>consumers).

Is it? In Viking Direct catalogues, for example, all prices are
listed net of VAT.

Regards,
--
David Uri.
daviduriVEST(a)bigfoot.com (remove VEST to reply)
http://www.daviduri.co.uk
From: michael adams on

"David Uri" <daviduriVEST(a)bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:19:27 +0100, "Joe Lee" <invalid(a)noaddress>
> wrote:
>
> >When listing you simply state the VAT inclusive price. (As you know - or
> >should know - this is a legal requirement when offerring goods for sale
to
> >consumers).
>
> Is it? In Viking Direct catalogues, for example, all prices are
> listed net of VAT.



Viking buyers are assumed to businesses, not private customers.

The requirement only applies to sales to private customers.
Not businesses.



michael adams

....






>
> Regards,
> --
> David Uri.
> daviduriVEST(a)bigfoot.com (remove VEST to reply)
> http://www.daviduri.co.uk


From: Niel J Humphreys on
"michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "David Uri" <daviduriVEST(a)bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:46j773tmv4g9p5iltockmt9jo5tdvk61h3(a)4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:19:27 +0100, "Joe Lee" <invalid(a)noaddress>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >When listing you simply state the VAT inclusive price. (As you know - or
>> >should know - this is a legal requirement when offerring goods for sale
> to
>> >consumers).
>>
>> Is it? In Viking Direct catalogues, for example, all prices are
>> listed net of VAT.
>
> Viking buyers are assumed to businesses, not private customers.
>
> The requirement only applies to sales to private customers.
> Not businesses.


Hmm just throwing this one in then. If Viking assume their customers are
businesses although private individuals can buy from them if they wish, what
is to stop sellers who add the VAT on to the bid price having a line in
their auction descriptions stating that they consider all sales are business
to business transactions?

Let's face it Viking don't even have such a disclaimer yet are quoting
ex-VAT pricing without any kind of penalty or legal challenge (at the
moment).

--

Niel H


From: michael adams on

"Niel J Humphreys" <admin(a)snowdoncomputersAaargh.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
> news:5di89aF34dd9iU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> >
> > "David Uri" <daviduriVEST(a)bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > news:46j773tmv4g9p5iltockmt9jo5tdvk61h3(a)4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:19:27 +0100, "Joe Lee" <invalid(a)noaddress>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >When listing you simply state the VAT inclusive price. (As you know -
or
> >> >should know - this is a legal requirement when offerring goods for
sale
> > to
> >> >consumers).
> >>
> >> Is it? In Viking Direct catalogues, for example, all prices are
> >> listed net of VAT.
> >
> > Viking buyers are assumed to businesses, not private customers.
> >
> > The requirement only applies to sales to private customers.
> > Not businesses.
>
>
> Hmm just throwing this one in then. If Viking assume their customers are
> businesses although private individuals can buy from them if they wish,
what
> is to stop sellers who add the VAT on to the bid price having a line in
> their auction descriptions stating that they consider all sales are
business
> to business transactions?

Two differences. Viking actually want to sell to businesses - who
buy stuff by the box load. If their private customers who mainly
buy in dribs and drabs get confused by their pricing then that's
just too bad. Let them go to W.H.Smith instead.

More importantly Viking don't have to worry about customer feedback
in any case.

Even if disgruntled private customers chained themselves to the
railings outside or go in hunger strike whinging about added VAT
there's nothing anyone can do. As its clear from their catalogue
that Viking are pitched mainly to selling to businesses.

All you'd be doing is give the muppetts yet one more excuse to
neg you.

>
> Let's face it Viking don't even have such a disclaimer yet are quoting
> ex-VAT pricing without any kind of penalty or legal challenge (at the
> moment).

It's in the nature of the stuff they sell. The vast majority of office
equipment and consumables are sold to businesses not private customers.
If necessary they could probably produce sales data to prove it.



michael adams

....




>
> --
>
> Niel H
>
>


From: Owain on
David Uri wrote:
>>When listing you simply state the VAT inclusive price. (As you know - or
>>should know - this is a legal requirement when offerring goods for sale to
>>consumers).
> Is it? In Viking Direct catalogues, for example, all prices are
> listed net of VAT.

Viking Direct catalogues are intended for business-to-business sales,
where prices are allowed to be shown ex-VAT.

Not sure about Viking Direct's website, but Screwfix which offers both
trade and retail sales has the option on their website to change between
ex- and inc-VAT prices.

Owain


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