From: Dee on

Steven Campbell wrote:
> "Dee" <diamond.london(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1167124525.042419.57960(a)48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Did anyone buy the KH2380 MP3 Car Radio from LIDL a few weeks ago?
> >
> > http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=98
> >
> > If so, do you get all three red lights lit on the unit even when the
> > car is turned off (The lights are only seen once the face light is
> > taken off)
> >
> > There is three lights, one on the eject button for the CD, one just
> > under the CD Slot and one flashing light, like those seen on car
> > alarms.
> >
> > I wondering because on my FIAT Punto (Mk 2) I've noticed since
> > installing the radio (replacing for a JVC) that the car battery seems
> > to run down quickly and have just tried to start the car only to find
> > it won't.
> >
> > I was thinking it was the battery which was 6 years old, so that has
> > been replaced now with a Bosch Silver battery which I charged on a
> > bench over night before installing.
> >
> > Didn't seem to have any problem with the JVC, although in previous MK1
> > Punto had a problem with a Sony Car MiniDisc player discharging the
> > car's battery but that only happened when I forgot to remove the
> > facelight. In this case the Silvercreast Face Lift had been removed.
> >
> > If anyone bought the same unit from Silver Crest would be good to hear
> > if all those lights stay on even when the car is off and if anyone has
> > had similar problems.
>
> On my wife's old Punto, I had to swap two wires around in the wiring loom.
> It may be you have the vehicles constant + connected to the accessory + on
> the radio side. Which would explain why the lights are staying on.
> I know the wiring looms are meant to be an industry standard but it
> definitely wasn't on the Punto or indeed with a Sony unit I had in a Passat.
>
> Steven.

Hi,

Where did you managed to find out which wires to swap over?

Does this mean once swapped over you cannot any longer use the unit
unless the key is turned? And also will it mean the flashing red LED
that makes it looks like you have a car alarm will no longer flash?

That feature I quite like.

From: Dee on

Dee wrote:
> Steven Campbell wrote:
> > "Dee" <diamond.london(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1167124525.042419.57960(a)48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Did anyone buy the KH2380 MP3 Car Radio from LIDL a few weeks ago?
> > >
> > > http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=98
> > >
> > > If so, do you get all three red lights lit on the unit even when the
> > > car is turned off (The lights are only seen once the face light is
> > > taken off)
> > >
> > > There is three lights, one on the eject button for the CD, one just
> > > under the CD Slot and one flashing light, like those seen on car
> > > alarms.
> > >
> > > I wondering because on my FIAT Punto (Mk 2) I've noticed since
> > > installing the radio (replacing for a JVC) that the car battery seems
> > > to run down quickly and have just tried to start the car only to find
> > > it won't.
> > >
> > > I was thinking it was the battery which was 6 years old, so that has
> > > been replaced now with a Bosch Silver battery which I charged on a
> > > bench over night before installing.
> > >
> > > Didn't seem to have any problem with the JVC, although in previous MK1
> > > Punto had a problem with a Sony Car MiniDisc player discharging the
> > > car's battery but that only happened when I forgot to remove the
> > > facelight. In this case the Silvercreast Face Lift had been removed.
> > >
> > > If anyone bought the same unit from Silver Crest would be good to hear
> > > if all those lights stay on even when the car is off and if anyone has
> > > had similar problems.
> >
> > On my wife's old Punto, I had to swap two wires around in the wiring loom.
> > It may be you have the vehicles constant + connected to the accessory + on
> > the radio side. Which would explain why the lights are staying on.
> > I know the wiring looms are meant to be an industry standard but it
> > definitely wasn't on the Punto or indeed with a Sony unit I had in a Passat.
> >
> > Steven.
>
> Hi,
>
> Where did you managed to find out which wires to swap over?
>
> Does this mean once swapped over you cannot any longer use the unit
> unless the key is turned? And also will it mean the flashing red LED
> that makes it looks like you have a car alarm will no longer flash?
>
> That feature I quite like.





There are two red wires (although one has a stripe on PIN 4)

I have a picture though this should help?

http://i14.tinypic.com/2lcpekn.jpg

I experimented with the PIN by covering them with paper to block them
from making contact to see what would happen - results given on the
picture.

Also notice how some wires are thick and some are thin

Can anyone give further advice now based on this picture?

From: Palindr☻me on
Dee wrote:
> Dee wrote:
>
>>Steven Campbell wrote:
>>
>>>"Dee" <diamond.london(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1167124525.042419.57960(a)48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>Did anyone buy the KH2380 MP3 Car Radio from LIDL a few weeks ago?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.mysilvercrest.de/en/artikel.php?a=98
>>>>
>>>>If so, do you get all three red lights lit on the unit even when the
>>>>car is turned off (The lights are only seen once the face light is
>>>>taken off)
>>>>
>>>>There is three lights, one on the eject button for the CD, one just
>>>>under the CD Slot and one flashing light, like those seen on car
>>>>alarms.
>>>>
>>>>I wondering because on my FIAT Punto (Mk 2) I've noticed since
>>>>installing the radio (replacing for a JVC) that the car battery seems
>>>>to run down quickly and have just tried to start the car only to find
>>>>it won't.
>>>>
>>>>I was thinking it was the battery which was 6 years old, so that has
>>>>been replaced now with a Bosch Silver battery which I charged on a
>>>>bench over night before installing.
>>>>
>>>>Didn't seem to have any problem with the JVC, although in previous MK1
>>>>Punto had a problem with a Sony Car MiniDisc player discharging the
>>>>car's battery but that only happened when I forgot to remove the
>>>>facelight. In this case the Silvercreast Face Lift had been removed.
>>>>
>>>>If anyone bought the same unit from Silver Crest would be good to hear
>>>>if all those lights stay on even when the car is off and if anyone has
>>>>had similar problems.
>>>
>>>On my wife's old Punto, I had to swap two wires around in the wiring loom.
>>>It may be you have the vehicles constant + connected to the accessory + on
>>>the radio side. Which would explain why the lights are staying on.
>>>I know the wiring looms are meant to be an industry standard but it
>>>definitely wasn't on the Punto or indeed with a Sony unit I had in a Passat.
>>>
>>>Steven.
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Where did you managed to find out which wires to swap over?
>>
>>Does this mean once swapped over you cannot any longer use the unit
>>unless the key is turned? And also will it mean the flashing red LED
>>that makes it looks like you have a car alarm will no longer flash?
>>
>>That feature I quite like.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There are two red wires (although one has a stripe on PIN 4)
>
> I have a picture though this should help?
>
> http://i14.tinypic.com/2lcpekn.jpg
>
> I experimented with the PIN by covering them with paper to block them
> from making contact to see what would happen - results given on the
> picture.
>
> Also notice how some wires are thick and some are thin
>
> Can anyone give further advice now based on this picture?
>


Pin 4 should be connected to an unswitched supply line.

Pin 7 must be connected to a *switched* supply line - eg is only live
when the ignition switch is turned.

From your description, you have Pin 7 connected to a permanently on
supply line. It may be that the line is going via relay contacts that
have fused together. This would give the problems you describe. If this
is the case, replacing the relay should fix this.

Fairly easy to test with a lamp and a couple of leads or a cheap test
meter - there should only be power on Pin 7 when the ignition key is in
and turned.


--
Sue





From: airsmoothed on

Palindr☻me wrote:
>
>
> Pin 4 should be connected to an unswitched supply line.
>
> Pin 7 must be connected to a *switched* supply line - eg is only live
> when the ignition switch is turned.
>
> From your description, you have Pin 7 connected to a permanently on
> supply line. It may be that the line is going via relay contacts that
> have fused together. This would give the problems you describe. If this
> is the case, replacing the relay should fix this.
>
> Fairly easy to test with a lamp and a couple of leads or a cheap test
> meter - there should only be power on Pin 7 when the ignition key is in
> and turned.
>
>
> --
> Sue

This may or may not be relevant, but I bought an 'aiwa' in car Mp3
player a while back for use in my Omega. This car does not have an
easily acessible switched supply, so I ended up wiring the whole thing
off the unswitched supply; this is not a problem as the unit has two
'off' states, one to be used to when connected in this manner. So
basically are you sure you are actually switching the unit off
correctly when using it with an unswitched supply.

Sorry that's probably not my clearest posting ever :-/

From: Palindr☻me on
airsmoothed(a)hotmail.com wrote:
> Palindr☻me wrote:
>
>>
>>Pin 4 should be connected to an unswitched supply line.
>>
>>Pin 7 must be connected to a *switched* supply line - eg is only live
>>when the ignition switch is turned.
>>
>> From your description, you have Pin 7 connected to a permanently on
>>supply line. It may be that the line is going via relay contacts that
>>have fused together. This would give the problems you describe. If this
>>is the case, replacing the relay should fix this.
>>
>>Fairly easy to test with a lamp and a couple of leads or a cheap test
>>meter - there should only be power on Pin 7 when the ignition key is in
>>and turned.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Sue
>
>
> This may or may not be relevant, but I bought an 'aiwa' in car Mp3
> player a while back for use in my Omega. This car does not have an
> easily acessible switched supply, so I ended up wiring the whole thing
> off the unswitched supply; this is not a problem as the unit has two
> 'off' states, one to be used to when connected in this manner. So
> basically are you sure you are actually switching the unit off
> correctly when using it with an unswitched supply.
>
> Sorry that's probably not my clearest posting ever :-/
>
Made perfect sense to me... ;)

--
Sue
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