From: johannes on


SteveH wrote:
>
> johannes <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote:
>
> > Coming from someone like you with a vested interest in selling food
> > products... I didn't say that it was a hazard, only wondered why they
> > didn't use real curry powder in the first place ffs.
>
> Because 'real' curry powder is 'curry flavour'.

That is ambiguous, just as I said. You can (1) flavour by curry powder, or you can
(2) use chemistry to produce a flavouring substance. E.g. Strawberry flavouring
that has neever seen a strawberry.
From: DubDriver on

"johannes" <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote in message
news:4B5B4A67.59A3BFDF(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com...
>
>
> DubDriver wrote:
>>
>> "johannes" <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote in message
>> news:4B5AE2C6.46043CAB(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Trust No One�" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> johannes wrote:
>> >> > Lidl sell smoked German cheese reduced from �2.99 to �0.99. However,
>> >> > there was recently a food scare about smoked flavour. Should I eat
>> >> > it?
>> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8448184.stm
>> >>
>> >> As a rule I never buy anything whose description contains the word
>> >> "flavour".
>> >>
>> >> I'm yet to come across real "smoked" cheese rather than smoke
>> >> "flavour"
>> >> cheese :(
>> >
>> > I think then you probably don't buy food. I've come across
>> > curry-flavoured
>> > pot noodles! Why don't they just use curry in the first place ffs?
>>
>> A "curry" is a recipe not an ingredient, unless you mean curry powder in
>> which case they do.
>
> I see what you mean, but these noodles are called "Curry Flavour".
>
> On content list: Curry Flavour, Wheat Flour, Guar Gum, Zodium Benzoate,...
> Nowhere does it say that it contains curry powder.
>
> The word "Flavour" is often used that way, in contrast to "Flavoured with
> curry".


According to Ocado's website:
http://www.ocado.com/webshop/product/Pot-Noodle-Original-Curry/35198011?parentContainer=SEARCHpot
noodle

Front pack shot doesn't say "flavour"

Ingredients include curry powder:

NOODLES, Noodles (47%), [Wheat Flour, Vegetable Oil, Salt, Firming Agents
(Potassium Carbonate,, Sodium Carbonate)], SAUCE AND VEGETABLES, Water,
Vegetables (6%) [Carrot, Onion, Peas (1.1%), Dried Glucose Syrup, Wheat
Flour, Soya Pieces (Texturised) (2.9%), Sugar, Flavourings (contain Celery
and Mustard), Low Sodium Mineral Salt (contains Potassium), Flavour Enhancer
(Monosodium Glutamate), Yeast Extract, Vegetable Oil, Garlic, Curry Powder,
Ground Cumin, Cheese Powder (contains milk), Spice Extracts, Chilli Powder,
SACHET, Mango Chutney Sauce (1.2%), [Mango Chutney (Sugar, Mangoes (36%)
Salt, Acetic Acid, Spices), Water, Modified Maize Starch, Acetic Acid,
Chilli Powder]

Maybe you have some other/older Curry Pot Noodle product?





From: johannes on


DubDriver wrote:
>
> "johannes" <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote in message
> news:4B5B4A67.59A3BFDF(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com...
> >
> >
> > DubDriver wrote:
> >>
> >> "johannes" <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4B5AE2C6.46043CAB(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Trust No One�" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> johannes wrote:
> >> >> > Lidl sell smoked German cheese reduced from �2.99 to �0.99. However,
> >> >> > there was recently a food scare about smoked flavour. Should I eat
> >> >> > it?
> >> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8448184.stm
> >> >>
> >> >> As a rule I never buy anything whose description contains the word
> >> >> "flavour".
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm yet to come across real "smoked" cheese rather than smoke
> >> >> "flavour"
> >> >> cheese :(
> >> >
> >> > I think then you probably don't buy food. I've come across
> >> > curry-flavoured
> >> > pot noodles! Why don't they just use curry in the first place ffs?
> >>
> >> A "curry" is a recipe not an ingredient, unless you mean curry powder in
> >> which case they do.
> >
> > I see what you mean, but these noodles are called "Curry Flavour".
> >
> > On content list: Curry Flavour, Wheat Flour, Guar Gum, Zodium Benzoate,...
> > Nowhere does it say that it contains curry powder.
> >
> > The word "Flavour" is often used that way, in contrast to "Flavoured with
> > curry".
>
> According to Ocado's website:
> http://www.ocado.com/webshop/product/Pot-Noodle-Original-Curry/35198011?parentContainer=SEARCHpot
> noodle
>
> Front pack shot doesn't say "flavour"
>
> Ingredients include curry powder:
>
> NOODLES, Noodles (47%), [Wheat Flour, Vegetable Oil, Salt, Firming Agents
> (Potassium Carbonate,, Sodium Carbonate)], SAUCE AND VEGETABLES, Water,
> Vegetables (6%) [Carrot, Onion, Peas (1.1%), Dried Glucose Syrup, Wheat
> Flour, Soya Pieces (Texturised) (2.9%), Sugar, Flavourings (contain Celery
> and Mustard), Low Sodium Mineral Salt (contains Potassium), Flavour Enhancer
> (Monosodium Glutamate), Yeast Extract, Vegetable Oil, Garlic, Curry Powder,
> Ground Cumin, Cheese Powder (contains milk), Spice Extracts, Chilli Powder,
> SACHET, Mango Chutney Sauce (1.2%), [Mango Chutney (Sugar, Mangoes (36%)
> Salt, Acetic Acid, Spices), Water, Modified Maize Starch, Acetic Acid,
> Chilli Powder]
>
> Maybe you have some other/older Curry Pot Noodle product?

No, I used the word 'pot noodle' in a generic sense; noodles in a pot where
you add hot water. The pot noodles is called: "Speedy Noodles" from Lidl,
and is actually very tasty.
From: DubDriver on

"johannes" <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote in message
news:4B5B50FD.8D21861B(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com...
>
>
> SteveH wrote:
>>
>> johannes <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Coming from someone like you with a vested interest in selling food
>> > products... I didn't say that it was a hazard, only wondered why they
>> > didn't use real curry powder in the first place ffs.
>>
>> Because 'real' curry powder is 'curry flavour'.
>
> That is ambiguous, just as I said. You can (1) flavour by curry powder, or
> you can
> (2)

That is flavoured

> use chemistry to produce a flavouring substance. E.g. Strawberry
> flavouring
> that has neever seen a strawberry.

That is flavour.
Food labeling Regulations 1996.



From: DubDriver on

"johannes" <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote in message
news:4B5B5567.A30C6D57(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com...
>
>
> DubDriver wrote:
>>
>> "johannes" <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote in message
>> news:4B5B4A67.59A3BFDF(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > DubDriver wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "johannes" <johs(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:4B5AE2C6.46043CAB(a)sizefi4e55642222tter.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Trust No One�" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> johannes wrote:
>> >> >> > Lidl sell smoked German cheese reduced from �2.99 to �0.99.
>> >> >> > However,
>> >> >> > there was recently a food scare about smoked flavour. Should I
>> >> >> > eat
>> >> >> > it?
>> >> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8448184.stm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As a rule I never buy anything whose description contains the word
>> >> >> "flavour".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm yet to come across real "smoked" cheese rather than smoke
>> >> >> "flavour"
>> >> >> cheese :(
>> >> >
>> >> > I think then you probably don't buy food. I've come across
>> >> > curry-flavoured
>> >> > pot noodles! Why don't they just use curry in the first place ffs?
>> >>
>> >> A "curry" is a recipe not an ingredient, unless you mean curry powder
>> >> in
>> >> which case they do.
>> >
>> > I see what you mean, but these noodles are called "Curry Flavour".
>> >
>> > On content list: Curry Flavour, Wheat Flour, Guar Gum, Zodium
>> > Benzoate,...
>> > Nowhere does it say that it contains curry powder.
>> >
>> > The word "Flavour" is often used that way, in contrast to "Flavoured
>> > with
>> > curry".
>>
>> According to Ocado's website:
>> http://www.ocado.com/webshop/product/Pot-Noodle-Original-Curry/35198011?parentContainer=SEARCHpot
>> noodle
>>
>> Front pack shot doesn't say "flavour"
>>
>> Ingredients include curry powder:
>>
>> NOODLES, Noodles (47%), [Wheat Flour, Vegetable Oil, Salt, Firming Agents
>> (Potassium Carbonate,, Sodium Carbonate)], SAUCE AND VEGETABLES, Water,
>> Vegetables (6%) [Carrot, Onion, Peas (1.1%), Dried Glucose Syrup, Wheat
>> Flour, Soya Pieces (Texturised) (2.9%), Sugar, Flavourings (contain
>> Celery
>> and Mustard), Low Sodium Mineral Salt (contains Potassium), Flavour
>> Enhancer
>> (Monosodium Glutamate), Yeast Extract, Vegetable Oil, Garlic, Curry
>> Powder,
>> Ground Cumin, Cheese Powder (contains milk), Spice Extracts, Chilli
>> Powder,
>> SACHET, Mango Chutney Sauce (1.2%), [Mango Chutney (Sugar, Mangoes (36%)
>> Salt, Acetic Acid, Spices), Water, Modified Maize Starch, Acetic Acid,
>> Chilli Powder]
>>
>> Maybe you have some other/older Curry Pot Noodle product?
>
> No, I used the word 'pot noodle' in a generic sense; noodles in a pot
> where
> you add hot water. The pot noodles is called: "Speedy Noodles" from Lidl,
> and is actually very tasty.

Flavoured vs. Flavour
Curry powder vs. none
A case of you pays your money and takes your choice.

"I've come across curry-*flavoured* pot noodles!"
"... but these noodles are called "Curry *Flavour*""
I guess that supports there is consumer confusion over use of the two
terms!?



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