From: Rod Speed on
Solar Flare <solaerfart(a)hootmail.invalidated> wrote

> Post one.

> In the last round about spreadsheets you avoided the issue by posting apparent confusion.

Wrong, as always.

> Demonstrate how spreadsheet code can be ported to somebody else. Post one here.

You post a link to the spreadsheet, stupid.


> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote
>> Steve O'Hara-Smith <steveo(a)eircom.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote

>>>> Corse he should be using a spreadsheet, not a progamming language.

>>> Nah a programming language is portable - spreadsheet code is not.

>> Excel is as portable as you need, the free spreadsheets support it fine.


From: nicksanspam on
rst0wxyz(a)yahoo.com <rst0wxyz(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>I have never seen APL used anywhere except in IBM, so you must be
>working for IBM.

I used it at Control Data, although I did more serious synthetic aperture
radar simulations in Dartmouth BASIC, via a timesharing terminal, ca 1966.

Nick

From: Steve O'Hara-Smith on
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:33:58 +1100
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve O'Hara-Smith <steveo(a)eircom.net> wrote:

> > Debuggers are overrated
>
> Nope.
>
> > - I used to use them a lot before I appreciated the utility
> > of good abstractions, clean interfaces and unit tests.
>
> They still improve your productivity when the inevitable fuckups still
> occur.

Well hey I've only been programming professionally for 28 years so
I probably don't know much about productivity. Seriously good automated
unit tests do far more for productivity than debuggers ever did.

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From: Steve O'Hara-Smith on
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:36:53 +1100
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve O'Hara-Smith <steveo(a)eircom.net> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote

> > I usually use xspread[1] when I want a spreadsheet,
> > I presume you are thinking of things like OpenOffice.org
>
> Nope. The vast bulk of the free spreadsheets are happy to load excel
> spreadsheets.

Hmmm gnumeric doesn't seem to claim it (and being gnome based it is
more than just a tad bloated), abs claims to support export to Excel but
says nothing about import, siag makes no such claims. Er which ones were
you thinking of (please restrict to open source not free binary because I
don't run Windows on my own kit).

> > as well as being several orders of magnitude larger than I like.
>
> Your problem.

Not a problem - I don't use it.

> > [1] Yes I don't tend to want a sophisticated spreadsheet :)
>
> More fool you, particularly when loading someone else's spreadsheet.

I don't load other peoples spreadsheets on my boxes - now for work
I have a work issued laptop running XP with a full Office suite on it. I
use it as little as possible and not for my personal stuff.

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From: rst0wxyz on

nicksanspam(a)ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> rst0wxyz(a)yahoo.com <rst0wxyz(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I have never seen APL used anywhere except in IBM, so you must be
> >working for IBM.
>
> I used it at Control Data, although I did more serious synthetic aperture
> radar simulations in Dartmouth BASIC, via a timesharing terminal, ca 1966.

I want to talk about Control Data, too, so this post and Morris Dovey's
post are related.

Back in the late 1960s, Call360 was developed in downtown San Jose by
SBC (Service Bureau Corporation, a subsidiary comppany of IBM). I was
one of the first user/testers of Call360. Later on, SBC was given to
Control Data because of the "Phantom Machine" law suit won by Control
Data. You must be in the part of Control Data that used to be SBC.

>
> Nick