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From: sr on 28 Nov 2009 23:44
You don't want to take their high paying jobs away from them? It is a scam
that keeps on giving
you are a meanie aren't you?

"o n z o b" <oo(a)p.com> wrote in message news:4b11e941(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
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> Malcolm Turnbull Stance Cops A Poll Axing
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> November 29 2009
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> MALCOLM Turnbull's hopes of fighting off a Liberal rebellion over climate
> change to hold on to the Opposition leadership have been shattered by a
> poll showing a whopping 60 per cent of Australians are against Rudd
> rushing the Emissions Trading Scheme through parliament.
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> Despite Mr Turnbull insisting the ETS must be passed now - ahead of the
> UN's Copenhagen summit - the poll overwhelmingly backs his opponents -
> with 81 per cent of Coalition supporters wanting the vote delayed.
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> Incredibly, nine out of 10 Coalition supporters - and three out of four
> Labor voters - say they don't understand the ETS and want the Government
> to explain it better.
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> The Galaxy poll, conducted exclusively for The Sunday Telegraph on Friday
> night, shows a huge 80 per cent of voters do not believe the Government
> has provided sufficient details about an ETS with only 26 per cent now
> supporting the Turnbull-Rudd push for the Senate to pass it into law
> immediately.
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> Fewer than one in five Australians believe the Government has provided
> sufficient information about the ETS.
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> Even 73 per cent of Labor voters are in the dark over the ETS.
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> Mr Turnbull will face a leadership challenge on Tuesday from Tony Abbott.
> But frantic efforts will be made by Liberal MPs over the next 48 hours to
> convince their preferred candidate, Joe Hockey, to stand. Mr Hockey, who
> is torn between his commitment to his young family and the need to take on
> the top job, will be buoyed by the Galaxy poll which shows he is neck-
> and-neck in voter support with Mr Turnbull, with both on 29 per cent. Mr
> Abbott is not far behind on 22 per cent.
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> Among Coalition supporters though, Mr Hockey is the clear favourite
> preferred by 39 per cent, with Mr Turnbull on 25 per cent running third
> behind Mr Abbott on 26 per cent.
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> Mr Hockey has previously said he will not challenge Mr Turnbull out of
> loyalty, friendship and the fact both belong to the party's moderate wing.
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> A confident Mr Turnbull yesterday re-affirmed to The Sunday Telegraph that
> he'd have to be blasted out of the leadership.
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> Asked if he would be a candidate, Mr Turnbull replied: "Absolutely. I've
> said it a thousand times. I'll stand."
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> As well as trying to convince Mr Hockey that if Mr Turnbull lost a spill
> motion and re-nominated Mr Hockey would not technically be challenging,
> his supporters are also try- ing to strike a deal with the Right through
> Senate leader Nick Minchin.
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> This would involve the right-wing climate change sceptics in the party
> refraining from publicly crowing they had won the day if Mr Hockey -
> previously a supporter of the ETS legislation being passed - were to stand
> and win.
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> Senior frontbencher Christopher Pyne, a supporter of Mr Turnbull, is not
> deserting his leader.
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> But, critically, MPs say his closeness to Mr Hockey and Mr Turnbull now
> makes him a key factor in any smooth transition between the two.
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> If a deal can be done Mr Hockey will send the ETS Bill off to a Senate
> inquiry and then use the findings of that inquiry in the new year to
> position himself as supporting an ETS but not the one being proposed by Mr
> Rudd.
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> But Mr Abbott, in an exclusive interview with The Sunday Telegraph, says
> the view of him as a narrow conservative is wrong, citing his plan for
> paid maternity leave as an example of his changed views, describing
> himself as a "commonsense pragmatist".
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> He also pledged not to let his Catholic beliefs influence his role as
> leader of the Opposition.
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> "The internal party criticism is that I'm ill-disciplined and too inclined
> to fly solo," Mr Abbott said.
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> "I think as a frontbencher you have to float a few ideas, but, obviously
> as a leader, there's a sense in which you don't have the luxury of a
> private opinion. I would be careful as leader to be collegial and
> consultative."
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> Independent assessments suggest Mr Turnbull and Mr Abbott each would have
> 30 solid votes. The remaining 25 MPs are understood to be leaning Mr
> Abbott's way, believing that if Mr Turnbull is re-elected, the undermining
> will simply continue.
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> Some of Mr Turnbull's supporters judge he has, at best, 20 solid votes,
> with 39 "on a very good day" - well short of the 43 needed for victory.
> Some put Mr Abbott decisively ahead "in the high 30s".
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> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sunday-telegraph/malcolm-turnbull-stance-cops-a-poll-axing/story-e6frewt0-1225804931828
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> Warmest Regards
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> B0n oz
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> "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
> US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of
> scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that
> is distinct from natural variation."
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> Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University,
> Townsville
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ne21hF3jv1tsU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> sr wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote
>>> sr wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> sr wrote
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>>>>>> Climategate: five Aussie MPs lead the way by resigning in disgust
>>>>>> over carbon tax
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>>>>> No they didnt, you pig ignorant clown.
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>>>> MyFreePress : Article : Al Gore Flees in Panic from Chicago Book
>>>> Signing: http://bit.ly/67s3Hb #climategate #gore #wimp
>>>> the crowd was right after him, they took off in the car and the
>>>> crowd was pounding on the car as they drove off.
>>>> I would pay to see that on the news LOL
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>>> Irrelevant to that stupid lie you posted.
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>> everything you believed is false,
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> Nope, not one of those resigned, fool.
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