From: Humbug on
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:14:16 +0100, "Fran"
<autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote:

>
>"Humbug" <humbug(a)tofee.net> wrote in message
>news:dhrl56ttkt49ehg7re75vomjlvpiist35i(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:29:20 +0100, "kraftee"
>> <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>news:%xf0o.183425$sD7.131708(a)hurricane...
>>>> Dodgy Geezer wrote:
>>>>> petrolcan wrote:
>>>>>> In article <Cue0o.166043$wi5.24323(a)hurricane>, Dodgy Geezer says...
>>>>>>> Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to show I'm dealing with a tosser - he's now sent a payment
>>>>>>>> reminder, two days after purchase.
>>>>>>> eBay send it, but it can be disabled if you're reasonably eBay savvy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ebay do not send it after two days, they send it after four if the UPI
>>>>>> autobot is enabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry Petrol, but they do.
>>>>>
>>>>> C&P (the relevant bit) from 'Automation Preferences' page :
>>>>>
>>>>> "Emails eBay sends for you :
>>>>>
>>>>> 48 hours after item has sold** "
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, missed a bit :
>>>>
>>>> "Emails eBay sends for you :
>>>>
>>>> 48 hours after item has sold** Purchase reminder"
>>>
>>>Funny, I can get those a couple of hours after I've 'won' the auction and
>>>paid.
>>
>> I've been getting feedback demands for items which haven't been
>> delivered.
>>
>> They look automatic TAAW :-(
>>
>
>Seller Manager. Did you not know that? Surprising from someone who claims to
>know so much.

Oh :-(

I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply which I made some
moments ago.

I've been away for a while, and I don't want to get involved in the
petty squabbles which some contributors to this NG seem to need.

I mentioned before that ignorance and stupidity are not the same
thing, and my intention at that time was to indicate that you (Fran)
are actually not stupid.

I don't know *anything* about Seller Manager, and have *never* claimed
to do so. I'm ignorant, not stupid.

In fact. I have never claimed to know anything at all in this NG.
I've asked relevant questions, and given a little advice where I have
had some experience, but never expected anyone else to think that I
was an authority.

I'm sorry if I've upset you by coming back to the NG. That certainly
was not my intetion.

--
Humbug
From: Humbug on
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:13:30 +0100, "Fran"
<autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote:

>
>"Humbug" <humbug(a)tofee.net> wrote in message
>news:4lrl56508jt1b09tlcpaqtukng03intjnk(a)4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:05:55 +0100, "John" <none(a)inuse.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>>>> Just bought a widget, fairly cheaply and informed the seller that
>>>> payment would be through in a few days - PP and my bank between them
>>>> conspire to delay things. This has never been a problem for any seller
>>>> up until now.
>>>> Got a whinging email this morning complaining about delay and how PP
>>>> is supposed to be instant (is it buggery - what about e-checks, etc).
>>>
>>>It certainly is - in my case, at least.
>>>
>>>I'm not a trader, just a private buyer/seller on Ebay but I still get a
>>>bit
>>>of a buzz when I win an auction. I'm usually at the keyboard in the final
>>>minutes of anything I'm bidding on and as such, if I'm the winning bidder,
>>>I
>>>usually pay there and then. Winning bid confirmation, payment made,
>>>invoice/proof of payment from PayPal, all within minutes of the auction
>>>ending.
>>>
>>>Unless auctions end at strange times of the night/morning I don't see any
>>>reason why a seller has to wait more than a few hours, a day at most, for
>>>their money.
>>
>> Why on earth should you assume that everybody else is the same as you?
>>
>> OK, I admit that I am actually in front of my computer (ar at least
>> "a" computer, when I'm at work) most of the time.
>>
>> But I never expect my buyers to do the same!
>>
>> Real people have real lives, you know.
>>
>
>This is where the EBay model is utter nonsense. In what other retail
>environment would it be acceptable to withhold payment for *any* period at
>all?

I've just bought a car.

The dealer was prepared to wait for me to get the money before letting
me have it. It took a few days.

That's just one example.

NOTBA eBay is *not* a retail environment.

Have you read eBay's T&Cs?

--
Humbug
(Who doesn't understand why Fran is being hostile)
From: Fran on

"Humbug" <humbug(a)tofee.net> wrote in message
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> I wasn't attacking you, so why are you attacking me?
>

I'm not.


From: Fran on

"Humbug" <humbug(a)tofee.net> wrote in message
news:t23m56phberr6jkf7f28lu1cab66ioj0cb(a)4ax.com...
> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:14:16 +0100, "Fran"

> I mentioned before that ignorance and stupidity are not the same
> thing, and my intention at that time was to indicate that you (Fran)
> are actually not stupid.

Fair enough. I obviously misread what you said in this instance.

> I'm sorry if I've upset you by coming back to the NG. That certainly
> was not my intetion.
>

You haven't upset me in the least. I do however recall some of the tone you
took with me a while back so that may be colouring my opinion. I'll reboot
it. ;)


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