From: Fran on

"Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> michael adams wrote:
>
>>
>> I still haven't left any and won't until matey takes delivery and or I
>> get
>> the refund. As he's still hoping for a positive believe it or not. I
>> might
>> even wait until Matey begs for the feedback in email. Then he gets
>> negged.
>
> My guess is you won't leave feedback at all.

Oh, I wonder why.


From: Fran on

"Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Fran wrote:
>> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
>> news:7ub32nFmdcU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>
>>> The delivery is completed once the item is left with the
>>> neighbour or with the Post Office.
>>
>> Wrong. PayPal don't work that way.
>
> I have a feeling you're wrong Fran.

There was a bit in the Telegraph about their policy yesterday. I'll see if I
can find it.

>
> In my experience, Paypal do refund when there's eveidence the item is
> posted, not delivered.

I think you've been "lucky". The policy is an online viewable signature on
delivery.


From: Dodgy Geezer on
Fran wrote:
> "Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:gw6gn.63104$lB6.43940(a)newsfe16.ams2...
>> Fran wrote:
>>> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:7ub32nFmdcU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>> The delivery is completed once the item is left with the
>>>> neighbour or with the Post Office.
>>> Wrong. PayPal don't work that way.
>> I have a feeling you're wrong Fran.
>
> There was a bit in the Telegraph about their policy yesterday. I'll see if I
> can find it.
>
>> In my experience, Paypal do refund when there's eveidence the item is
>> posted, not delivered.
>
> I think you've been "lucky". The policy is an online viewable signature on
> delivery.
>
>

As the seller, it isn't 'lucky' at all. Buyer had the refund before I
got the goods back.
From: Dodgy Geezer on
Fran wrote:
> "Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:Uu6gn.63103$lB6.9748(a)newsfe16.ams2...
>> michael adams wrote:
>>
>>> I still haven't left any and won't until matey takes delivery and or I
>>> get
>>> the refund. As he's still hoping for a positive believe it or not. I
>>> might
>>> even wait until Matey begs for the feedback in email. Then he gets
>>> negged.
>> My guess is you won't leave feedback at all.
>
> Oh, I wonder why.
>
>

It's just a hunch :-)
From: michael adams on

"Fran" <autumnacorn(a)vendredi.fr.com> wrote in message
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> I think you've been "lucky". The policy is an online viewable signature on
> delivery.
>
>

The policy is that there's independently verifiable evidence i.e a website
run by a reputable courier showing the tracking number given by the sender
when the item is sent and showing the item was "delivered" either to that
address, a neighbour or a local Post Office. That's when the delivery ceases.
After that its "collected"/Geddit ?

I should of course have added local Sorting Offices. Dunno about Courier
Depots as maybe different couriers have differnt rules some of which are
unacceptable to Paypal.
I chose not to use Recorded Delivery which would have been �4 cheaper because I sent
2 letters Recorded Delivery around Christmas as - both arrived but one of
which is supposed to be still at the PO where it was sent,

AG190297962GB
(Humphreys creams his pants again)

while the postie is still delivering the other one two months later
AG071421205GB

So neither are proof of delivery.
I was thinking of maybe suing for compo as it cost me a few bob in phone
calls and wasted time listening to muzak to make sure they'd
been delivered on time.

michael adams

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