From: Fran on

"Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Fran wrote:
>> "Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:gw6gn.63104$lB6.43940(a)newsfe16.ams2...
>>> Fran wrote:
>>>> "michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:7ub32nFmdcU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>>> The delivery is completed once the item is left with the
>>>>> neighbour or with the Post Office.
>>>> Wrong. PayPal don't work that way.
>>> I have a feeling you're wrong Fran.
>>
>> There was a bit in the Telegraph about their policy yesterday. I'll see
>> if I can find it.
>>
>>> In my experience, Paypal do refund when there's eveidence the item is
>>> posted, not delivered.
>>
>> I think you've been "lucky". The policy is an online viewable signature
>> on delivery.
>
> As the seller, it isn't 'lucky' at all. Buyer had the refund before I got
> the goods back.

Arg. Sorry, I misunderstood. That's damnably unfair on you.


From: Fran on

"michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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> The policy is that there's independently verifiable evidence i.e a website
> run by a reputable courier showing the tracking number given by the sender
> when the item is sent and showing the item was "delivered" either to that
> address, a neighbour or a local Post Office. That's when the delivery
> ceases.
> After that its "collected"/Geddit ?

If you're relying on that, you're wrong.

> Especially given its far more likely, given the chance that (if the Paypal
> rules are what you claim) sellers would simply refuse returns safe in the
> knowledge no refund could be given.

They do. Check the PayPal boards.



From: Fran on

"michael adams" <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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> The policy is that there's independently verifiable evidence i.e a website
> run by a reputable courier showing the tracking number given by the sender
> when the item is sent and showing the item was "delivered" either to that
> address, a neighbour or a local Post Office. That's when the delivery
> ceases.
> After that its "collected"/Geddit ?

You've just completely changed your tack. Well done. (And the PO doesn't
count, btw.)



From: Fran on

"Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Fran wrote:
>> "Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:Uu6gn.63103$lB6.9748(a)newsfe16.ams2...
>>> michael adams wrote:
>>>
>>>> I still haven't left any and won't until matey takes delivery and or I
>>>> get
>>>> the refund. As he's still hoping for a positive believe it or not. I
>>>> might
>>>> even wait until Matey begs for the feedback in email. Then he gets
>>>> negged.
>>> My guess is you won't leave feedback at all.
>>
>> Oh, I wonder why.
>
> It's just a hunch :-)

Heh. I'm watching that seller. ;)


From: petrolcan on
In article <52ign.89100$4D2.79566(a)newsfe12.ams2>, Dodgy Geezer says...
>
> michael adams wrote:
> > "Dodgy Geezer" <dodgy.geezer(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:75Vfn.161554$2R.137717(a)newsfe11.ams2...
> >> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >>> "Raj Kundra" <raj(a)REM0VE THISkundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If you are that paranoid, then you should not put it on the NG.
> >>> Heh. Spacker was that paranoid, and tripped himself up magnificently.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Drat, I missed all this, what did he do ?
> >
> >
> > He posted a screen capture of another poster's listing, but with the
> > postage to his own postcode - the postcode was displayed on the screen
> > as well.
> >
> > Hoist by his own postcode, as it were.
> >
>
> I'm wondering if he might have blagged his way out of this.

He didn't even try to.

> If he'd have put some doubt over it then maybe he'd have had time to
> fade into the distance.

Heh, no-one would have believed him.

> All academic now but just a thought.

Troo.