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From: Mxsmanic on 1 Apr 2007 18:12 Benj writes: > Oh, I see. It's OK to commit a felony if you don't get caught! More like: If you commit a felony by accident, it's best not to admit to it. Oddly enough, this correlates very well with legal advice from attorneys that I've read in a number of books. The reality is that honesty is _not_ the best policy. > Nope, I think it's pretty sensible. Any person, United employee or > not, who tries to have the means of self-defense at hand is obviously > a criminal at best and perhaps even a terrorist. "Bearing arms" > clearly only applies to the army and government employees not to > airline personnel even if they have a uniform. Nobody on an aircraft needs a gun. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
From: aemeijers on 1 Apr 2007 19:27 "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:ogb013tl40qnviate4550eb100blhhv8au(a)4ax.com... > Benj writes: > >> Oh, I see. It's OK to commit a felony if you don't get caught! > > More like: If you commit a felony by accident, it's best not to admit to > it. > > Oddly enough, this correlates very well with legal advice from attorneys > that > I've read in a number of books. The reality is that honesty is _not_ the > best > policy. > >> Nope, I think it's pretty sensible. Any person, United employee or >> not, who tries to have the means of self-defense at hand is obviously >> a criminal at best and perhaps even a terrorist. "Bearing arms" >> clearly only applies to the army and government employees not to >> airline personnel even if they have a uniform. > > Nobody on an aircraft needs a gun. > 'Cept the guy taking out the guy with the box cutter...... But yeah, in this case, I think the woman should have kept her mouth shut, gone to the hotel, and fed-ex'd the thing back to herself in pieces, in at least 2 seperate envelopes. And if you think the security perimeter is porous for uniformed on-board crew, next time you are at the airport, watch through the window at all the faceless guys driving the catering truck, honey wagon, luggage train, etc, and see how they have full access to the plane. Think they go through a metal detector? aem sends.... aem sends...
From: BTR1701 on 1 Apr 2007 21:30 In article <ogb013tl40qnviate4550eb100blhhv8au(a)4ax.com>, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Benj writes: > > > Oh, I see. It's OK to commit a felony if you don't get caught! > > More like: If you commit a felony by accident, it's best not to admit to it. > > Oddly enough, this correlates very well with legal advice from attorneys that > I've read in a number of books. The reality is that honesty is _not_ the best > policy. > > > Nope, I think it's pretty sensible. Any person, United employee or > > not, who tries to have the means of self-defense at hand is obviously > > a criminal at best and perhaps even a terrorist. "Bearing arms" > > clearly only applies to the army and government employees not to > > airline personnel even if they have a uniform. > > Nobody on an aircraft needs a gun. Four planeloads full of people about six years ago would disagree with you. If they could.
From: BTR1701 on 1 Apr 2007 21:30 In article <adXPh.6583$VU4.2132(a)bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "aemeijers" <aemeijers(a)att.net> wrote: > "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:ogb013tl40qnviate4550eb100blhhv8au(a)4ax.com... > > Benj writes: > > > >> Oh, I see. It's OK to commit a felony if you don't get caught! > > > > More like: If you commit a felony by accident, it's best not to admit to > > it. > > > > Oddly enough, this correlates very well with legal advice from attorneys > > that > > I've read in a number of books. The reality is that honesty is _not_ the > > best > > policy. > > > >> Nope, I think it's pretty sensible. Any person, United employee or > >> not, who tries to have the means of self-defense at hand is obviously > >> a criminal at best and perhaps even a terrorist. "Bearing arms" > >> clearly only applies to the army and government employees not to > >> airline personnel even if they have a uniform. > > > > Nobody on an aircraft needs a gun. > > > 'Cept the guy taking out the guy with the box cutter...... > > But yeah, in this case, I think the woman should have kept her mouth shut, > gone to the hotel, and fed-ex'd the thing back to herself in pieces, in at > least 2 seperate envelopes. > > And if you think the security perimeter is porous for uniformed on-board > crew, next time you are at the airport, watch through the window at all the > faceless guys driving the catering truck, honey wagon, luggage train, etc, > and see how they have full access to the plane. Think they go through a > metal detector? Actually, they do.
From: Mxsmanic on 1 Apr 2007 22:04
BTR1701 writes: > Four planeloads full of people about six years ago would disagree with > you. If they could. They were caught by surprise. Guns don't help in that case, whereas if the element of surprise is lost (or switches to the opposite side), a gun isn't really necessary. A bit like martial arts. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |