What if climate change is a big hoax and we make a better world for nothing?
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From: TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu on 4 Apr 2010 02:11 (I took the title from a cartoon at the link below) Yep, that's the irony of it. We don't even have to sacrifice that much just to play it safe. Just ride a bike or be vegetarian perhaps. Why so much resistance to change? I guess that's too threatening to the fat lazy couch potatoes... ;) 'Featured as part of the cover story of Scientific American magazine's April issue, which hit newsstands on March 24, U of M professor Jon Foley makes the case for why we need to pay more attention to all environmental processes that contribute to the Earth's health. In his article, "Boundaries for a Healthy Planet," he argues that while climate change gets ample attention, species loss and nitrogen pollution exceed safe limits by greater degrees. In addition, other environmental processes such as ocean acidification and stratospheric ozone depletion are also moving toward dangerous thresholds.' http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2010/04/is_earth_past_the_tipping_poin.php ------------------------------------------------ THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS "Being frugal and smart is GOOD FOR YOU and others" http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
From: TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu on 4 Apr 2010 17:43 On Apr 4, 1:35 pm, TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.ban...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 4, 12:09 pm, VFW <george...(a)toast.net> wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24 I was scanning through the comments above and this one caught my attention... "All great truths begin as blasphemies" ~George Bernard Shaw~ ...But then again.. He was just another monkey... =))))
From: TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu on 5 Apr 2010 11:18 On Apr 5, 2:32 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > You ever heard of hunter-gatherers? > > Nope, never heard of them, child. Well, they were here before Adam & Eve, you know. They kept walking and struggling the whole day. Believe it or not, "the easy life in front of the TV" is not meant to be. That's why you have to know about EVOLUTION. You know what Darwin said about evolution? "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -Charles Darwin > > > Humans are meant to walk and run, > > So walk and run, child. I find no people outside. More predators in SUVs actively hunting me down than smiling cyclists. > > > not grow fat like pigs. > > Then hang yourself forthwith. You know, this is deep, we have come in full circle from roaming in the jungle to surviving in the jungle. From monkeys to pigs.
From: Rod Speed on 5 Apr 2010 13:09 TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote: > On Apr 5, 2:32 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> You ever heard of hunter-gatherers? >> Nope, never heard of them, child. > Well, they were here before Adam & Eve, you know. Pure fantasy. > They kept walking and struggling the whole day. They cant have done. Otherwise they couldnt have done that cave art etc. > Believe it or not, "the easy life in front of the TV" is not meant to be. Wrong, as always. > That's why you have to know about EVOLUTION. You havent even managed to evolve past walking, child. > You know what Darwin said about evolution? Yep, he wrote a book about it, stupid. > "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most > intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -Charles Darwin So you and your ilk wont survive, you cant even manage to respond to cars. >>> Humans are meant to walk and run, >> So walk and run, child. > I find no people outside. Thats because of those rabid blood shot eyes and flecks of foam about the lips and the bananas, child. > More predators in SUVs actively hunting me down than smiling cyclists. They clearly arent doing much of a job, child. >>> not grow fat like pigs. >> Then hang yourself forthwith. > You know, this is deep, we have come in full circle from roaming > in the jungle to surviving in the jungle. From monkeys to pigs. Then hang yourself fivethwith, child.
From: TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu on 5 Apr 2010 13:15
On Apr 5, 9:44 am, d...(a)manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote: > In <5c86eb8a-57c3-44e9-80aa-db534fda0...(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote in part: > > >>article, "Boundaries for a Healthy Planet," he argues that while > >climate change gets ample attention, species loss and nitrogen > >pollution exceed safe limits by greater degrees. In addition, other > >environmental processes such as ocean acidification and stratospheric > >ozone depletion are also moving toward dangerous thresholds.' > > >http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2010/04/is_earth_past_the_tipping_ > >poin.php > > Stratospheric ozone depletion, as it turns out, is looking to me like a > disaster averted by nearly eliminating production of CFCs and nearly > eliminating release into the atmosphere of CFCs and halogenated > hydrocarbons in general. > > Gas/Vapor 1998 Concentration 2009 Concentration > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CFC-12 269 ppt 242-244 ppt (down 9.3%) > CFC-11 533 ppt 536-538 ppt (up .75%) > CFC-113 84 ppt 76-77 ppt (down 8.9%) > carbon tetrachloride 102 ppt 88-89 ppt (down 13%) > > Hydrochlorofluorocarbons are still increasing, with HCFC-22 being the > main one, but they are less damaging than the CFCs that they replaced. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gases > > http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/pns/current_ghg.html > > One thing interesting about the second link: Total anthropogenic > radiative forcing (change in radiation balance assuming constant surface > temperature since before the Industrial Revolution), from listed > greenhouse gases, as of 2009 was 2.98 watts per square centimeter. CO2 > was responsible for 1.66 of that in 2009 and 1.46 of that in 1998. The > four chlorine compounds that I mentioned above accounted for .269 W/m^2 in > 2009 and .28 W/cm^2 in 1998. > > The above 4 plus HCFC-22 accounted for .31 W/cm^2 in 1998 and .302 > W/cm^2 in 2009. > > For that mater, total anthropogenic ozone depleting gas EECI is down 10% > from its peak in 1994 and still declining: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ozone_cfc_trends.png > > Not that radiative forcing is the mechanism for statospheric ozone > destruction, but stratospheric ozone presence has stabilized both where it > is most-monitored (in the Antarctic) and in a larger global measure: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Min_ozone.jpg > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TOMS_Global_Ozone_65N-65S.png > > http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/ozone_maps/movies/OZONE_D1979-10%25P1Y_ > G%5e360X240.LSH.mpg > (Animation of how the month of October fared from year to year, which I > selected because October is a bad month for Antarctic stratospheric ozone) > > http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/monthly/climatology_10.html > > (If one needs a different version of the animation) > > - Don Klipstein (d...(a)misty.com) While we may argue forever whether Climate Change is "debatable" (until it's too late), we may still argue the need for change based on building a "better world." What's a better world? Certainly not one dictated by machines and predatory economies. We should be aiming, for example, for more free time to ride bikes and walk, not for an artificial, enslaving way of life where you drive a "jungle vehicle" (SUV) in the middle of the city. I quote here... "It has been suggested by experts that this shift towards civilization, through domestication, has caused an increase in diseases, labor and psychological disorders." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy#List_of_ungoverned_communities In other words, we should be questioning whether the "sheep" is a necessary outcome of the "wild monkey." Well, they still act like a wild monkey when they drive an SUV --or like a domesticated sheep when driving a little Toyota. |