From: Rod Speed on
Gordon Burditt wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> I am glad it is still available for sale.I am very much interested
>>> in buying your item and i am ok with the price. I am only able
>>> to make payment by money order at this time b/c i am away on
>>> assignment. Please provide me with your
>>> name:............
>>> address:............
>>> and phone number:............
>>> for payment. It will take about 7days for payment to get to you. As
>>> per pick-up, I will make arrangement for the pick-up after payment
>>> has been received by you. I don't mind adding ten dollars so you
>>> can keep it in my favor.Please take the posting off craigslist
>>> today and consider it sold to me. Thanks
>>> Expecting to hear from you soon.
>>> Regards
> ...
>>> What's the scam?

>> Unlikely it is scam, just someone who is currently away
>> from home wanting to buy what you have on offer.

> Careful, a lot of scams work like this.

No they dont.

> See "money order" on Wikipedia.

Useless.

>>> All that I can think of is that she going to send an MO for more
>>> than what I'm asking and ask me to refund the difference.

> Possibly a *counterfeit* money order.

And its easy to see if it does turn into cash.

>> Easy to refuse to pay any difference until you have cashed the MO.

> Easy to lose a lot of money that way.

Nope.

> You need to refuse to send *anything* until after
> you have been assured that the money order has
> cleared beyond any possibility of being disputed.

What matters is whether you got money for it.

> Legally, and in the United States, I think that period can be up to 7 years.

You're wrong.

> A lot of scams are based on a check, cashier's check, or money order
> failing to clear *after* the normal period when it is considered cleared.

Thats trivially avoidable with a money order.

> You don't normally get positive feedback that something has cleared.

You do if you cash a money order.

> It just after N days hasn't come back. Money orders and
> checks on foreign banks (especially in countries where they
> may be transported as paper by mule cart) can take much longer
> to clear or bounce, especially if the money order is counterfeit.

Irrelevant if someone give you the cash for the MO.

> It is possible for a check to "unclear" when the alleged writer
> of the check sees it on his statement, 45 days later, and says
> he didn't write it, fills out an Affidavit of Forgery, and the check
> bounces back. I had to do this once so I know it works.

Pity that that isnt true of MONEY ORDERS.