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From: Steve_B on 12 Feb 2010 21:52 Veritas <truth(a)once.now> wrote in news:4b75f866$0$31280 $607ed4bc(a)cv.net: > nunurbiz wrote: >> Veritas <truth(a)once.now> wrote in news:4b75c26d$0$31271 >> $607ed4bc(a)cv.net: >> >>> naderaider wrote: >>>> Trying to decide on a Vitamin/Supplement supplier? >>>> >>>> One company that has caused myself and many others many problems >> is >>>> an outfit called Puritan's Pride, a huge supplier and subsidiary >> of >>>> NBTY, Inc., Scott Rudolph, CEO. >>>> >>>> In addition to using bait and switch tactics with me, having a >> poor >>>> delivery record and not responding to customer complaints, they >> have >>>> been sued by States and the U.S. Gov. for illegal practices. >>> >>> Where is the evidence that Puritan Pride products don't contain >> the >>> ingredients they say they do? The links you gave refer to another >>> company on another matter or anecdotal customer complaints. <snip> Wow take a look at all the slam bad reviews they have at resellerratings. When that many people slam a company,there must be good reason. Cancelled orders, charges for non-delivered goods, bad service, the complaints go on and on... > Again, post some hard, credible evidence from an independent testing lab > or organization evaluating supplement suppliers and I'll be happy to > read it. I want to get reliable supplements too. But it will take more > than anecdotal or testimonial "evidence" to convince me. > > How obtuse of you. You think someone is going to pay to have all their products tested for you? Most consumer feedback is anecdotal,if you're looking for hard research you won't find that for any supplier. I for one would not want to put into my body producst from an outfit with such a bad rep from it's customers.
From: The Real Bev on 13 Feb 2010 00:45 On 02/12/2010 06:46 PM, trigonometry1972(a)gmail.com | wrote: > My experience with > Puritans Pride has been good over all. We have ordered from them since they were Nutrition Headquarters and had full-page ads in This Week (freebie with the Sunday newspaper) magazine and have had NO problems. Some glass bottles of flaxseed oil arrived broken (yeah, it WAS a big mess), but they replaced MORE than the broken bottles. I can't speak to the contents of their products (I've never been able to tell any difference between no vitamins and mega-vitamins), but their service has certainly been excellent. > Though placing > an order by phone hasn't worked well toward the end of > the lowest price of the year sale on one instance for me. > I was on hold for too long so I used another company. I'm SOOOOO glad we can place orders on the net rather than on the phone, it's just SOOOOOOO much better. > As to Gateway does it keep the source of posting safe from discovery? I'm still trying to figure out what you mean here... -- Cheers, Bev Far away in a strange land
From: trigonometry1972 on 13 Feb 2010 08:46 On Feb 12, 9:45 pm, The Real Bev <bashley101...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 02/12/2010 06:46 PM, trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com | wrote: > > > My experience with > > Puritans Pride has been good over all. > > We have ordered from them since they were Nutrition Headquarters and had > full-page ads in This Week (freebie with the Sunday newspaper) magazine and > have had NO problems. Some glass bottles of flaxseed oil arrived broken (yeah, > it WAS a big mess), but they replaced MORE than the broken bottles. I can't > speak to the contents of their products (I've never been able to tell any > difference between no vitamins and mega-vitamins), but their service has > certainly been excellent. > > > Though placing > > an order by phone hasn't worked well toward the end of > > the lowest price of the year sale on one instance for me. > > I was on hold for too long so I used another company. > > I'm SOOOOO glad we can place orders on the net rather than on the phone, it's > just SOOOOOOO much better. > > > As to Gateway does it keep the source of posting safe from discovery? > > I'm still trying to figure out what you mean here... > > -- > Cheers, Bev > Far away in a strange land Ahh the last bit was a comment to the first person on the thread. Who posted by way of ISP called Gateway if I got that straight. Posting fights to the MHA forum have at times lead to the United States court system. Nutrition Headquarters at least as I recall was a different company though perhaps there was company consolidation. And way back in the day Puritan's Pride started out as GNC or was that General Nutrition which sold it or spun it off. The companies have changed hands several times as I dimly recall. The only problem I recall they sold me some capsules of CQ10 that the catalog claimed were in softgels. That was about 10 years ago. Indeed, if google the topic on nutrition or life-extension forum you'll find others complaining about this mistake. It will be years back when the Usenet was more vigorous as I recall it. Anyway, they aren't those most innovative on the topic of supplement formulations. On the other hand, they tend to have comparatively low prices. I've been wondering if LEF has purchased Beyond-A-Century. I remember back in the writing a letter ( I do mean writing in long hand) to LEF suggesting they remove iron and copper from there vitamin mineral powder mix. That was 25 years ago. Sorry to be a bore.........................Trig
From: John Graeme on 13 Feb 2010 10:54 On Feb 12, 9:52 pm, "Steve_B" <Stev...(a)msn.com> wrote: > Veritas <tr...(a)once.now> wrote in news:4b75f866$0$31280 > $607ed...(a)cv.net: > > nunurbiz wrote: > >> Veritas <tr...(a)once.now> wrote in news:4b75c26d$0$31271 > >> $607ed...(a)cv.net: > > >>> naderaider wrote: > >>>> Trying to decide on a Vitamin/Supplement supplier? > > >>>> One company that has caused myself and many others many > problems > >> is > >>>> an outfit called Puritan's Pride, a huge supplier and > subsidiary > >> of > >>>> NBTY, Inc., Scott Rudolph, CEO. > > >>>> In addition to using bait and switch tactics with me, having a > >> poor > >>>> delivery record and not responding to customer complaints, they > >> have > >>>> been sued by States and the U.S. Gov. for illegal practices. > > >>> Where is the evidence that Puritan Pride products don't contain > >> the > >>> ingredients they say they do? The links you gave refer to > another > >>> company on another matter or anecdotal customer complaints. > > <snip> > > Wow take a look at all the slam bad reviews they have at > resellerratings. When that many people slam a company,there must be > good reason. Cancelled orders, charges for non-delivered goods, bad > service, the complaints go on and on... 82% gave PP a favorable review in that one survey. http://www.viewpoints.com/Puritans-Pride-Vitamins-and-Minerals-reviews > > Again, post some hard, credible evidence from an independent > testing lab > > or organization evaluating supplement suppliers and I'll be happy > to > > read it. I want to get reliable supplements too. But it will > take more > > than anecdotal or testimonial "evidence" to convince me. > > How obtuse of you. You think someone is going to pay to have all > their products tested for you? Most consumer feedback is > anecdotal,if you're looking for hard research you won't find that > for any supplier. I for one would not want to put into my body > producst from an outfit with such a bad rep from it's customers. Ever hear of Consumer Reports, for example? How obtuse of you not to know of the many independent consumer testing organizations.
From: thegnome on 13 Feb 2010 15:05
John Graeme <jdgraeme(a)my-deja.com> wrote in news:417d8786-765b-4ec2-bb02- ad7906fec23e(a)g23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com: > On Feb 12, 9:52 pm, "Steve_B" <Stev...(a)msn.com> wrote: >> Veritas <tr...(a)once.now> wrote in news:4b75f866$0$31280 >> $607ed...(a)cv.net: >> > nunurbiz wrote: >> >> Veritas <tr...(a)once.now> wrote in news:4b75c26d$0$31271 >> >> $607ed...(a)cv.net: >> >> >>> naderaider wrote: >> >>>> Trying to decide on a Vitamin/Supplement supplier? >> >> >>>> One company that has caused myself and many others many >> problems >> >> is >> >>>> an outfit called Puritan's Pride, a huge supplier and >> subsidiary >> >> of >> >>>> NBTY, Inc., Scott Rudolph, CEO. >> >> >>>> In addition to using bait and switch tactics with me, having a >> >> poor >> >>>> delivery record and not responding to customer complaints, they >> >> have >> >>>> been sued by States and the U.S. Gov. for illegal practices. >> >> >>> Where is the evidence that Puritan Pride products don't contain >> >> the >> >>> ingredients they say they do? The links you gave refer to >> another >> >>> company on another matter or anecdotal customer complaints. >> >> <snip> >> >> Wow take a look at all the slam bad reviews they have at >> resellerratings. When that many people slam a company,there must be >> good reason. Cancelled orders, charges for non-delivered goods, bad >> service, the complaints go on and on... > > 82% gave PP a favorable review in that one survey. > > http://www.viewpoints.com/Puritans-Pride-Vitamins-and-Minerals-reviews > > >> > Again, post some hard, credible evidence from an independent >> testing lab >> > or organization evaluating supplement suppliers and I'll be happy >> to >> > read it. I want to get reliable supplements too. But it will >> take more >> > than anecdotal or testimonial "evidence" to convince me. >> >> How obtuse of you. You think someone is going to pay to have all >> their products tested for you? Most consumer feedback is >> anecdotal,if you're looking for hard research you won't find that >> for any supplier. I for one would not want to put into my body >> producst from an outfit with such a bad rep from it's customers. > > Ever hear of Consumer Reports, for example? How obtuse of you not to > know of the many independent consumer testing organizations. http://74.125.155.132/search? q=cache:6xGQlUuPMlcJ:naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/tabId/119/itemId/4334/O pen-letter-to-Tod-Cooperman-Consumer-Labs.aspx+puritan% 27s+pride+lab+tested+dishonest&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Puritan's Pride PAYS to have Consumer Labs do "independent" tests of their products, bwaaahhhhhhh! |