Why people don't commute by bike?
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From: Derek C on 10 Aug 2010 14:09 On Aug 10, 6:29 pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 9, 5:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 9, 10:42 am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...(a)yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > On Aug 8, 9:38 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the > > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.ban...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 5, 7:59 am, Kenneth O'Brien <kob22...(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I do not care about training cyclists looking for fun, performance or > > > > > > whatever on a bike. They don't care about others either. That's a > > > > > > hobby. The revolution is for the SUB (Sport Utility Bike) > > > > > > OK. But the commuting share isn't at whatever it is because 1 minus that number fraction of the public wouldn't DARE ride their bike on the road. There is a million and one things that add up to commute share. > > > > > > Ken > > > > > Go around, and the reasons you will most likely find are: > > > > > 1- It's too dangerous: FEAR (it may be a perception, but it's strong > > > > enough to send most cyclists onto the sidewalks, thus rendering > > > > cycling ineffective except for immigrant workers who can't afford a > > > > car) > > > > > 2- TOO FAR: You may combine it with public transportation or get > > > > another job or move. > > > > > 3- I WILL SWEAT: True, but then showers at work may be provided. Or > > > > maybe you sweat at work anyway. > > > > You forgot one: > > > > 4. WEATHER: Snow. Slush. Sub-zero temperatures. > > > Holland and Denmark don't have the best weather in the planet, but > > they still do it. > > > But, you are right, it can be cited as excuse. Actually some people > > here cite potential floodings (?) as the reason to own an SUV.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I forgot one (kind of weather), too: Ice. When the cars are sliding > around > like two-ton billiard balls is no time to be on the roads atop a few > pounds > of bicycle. > > Cindy Hamilton- One of the problems in the UK is the poor state of our roads, especially after this year's hard winter. There were potholes everywhere, especially where commercial vehicles ran their nearside wheels, which is about where you would like to cycle. Derek C
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 10 Aug 2010 16:14 On Aug 10, 10:29 am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 9, 5:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 9, 10:42 am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...(a)yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > On Aug 8, 9:38 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the > > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.ban...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 5, 7:59 am, Kenneth O'Brien <kob22...(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I do not care about training cyclists looking for fun, performance or > > > > > > whatever on a bike. They don't care about others either. That's a > > > > > > hobby. The revolution is for the SUB (Sport Utility Bike) > > > > > > OK. But the commuting share isn't at whatever it is because 1 minus that number fraction of the public wouldn't DARE ride their bike on the road. There is a million and one things that add up to commute share. > > > > > > Ken > > > > > Go around, and the reasons you will most likely find are: > > > > > 1- It's too dangerous: FEAR (it may be a perception, but it's strong > > > > enough to send most cyclists onto the sidewalks, thus rendering > > > > cycling ineffective except for immigrant workers who can't afford a > > > > car) > > > > > 2- TOO FAR: You may combine it with public transportation or get > > > > another job or move. > > > > > 3- I WILL SWEAT: True, but then showers at work may be provided. Or > > > > maybe you sweat at work anyway. > > > > You forgot one: > > > > 4. WEATHER: Snow. Slush. Sub-zero temperatures. > > > Holland and Denmark don't have the best weather in the planet, but > > they still do it. > > > But, you are right, it can be cited as excuse. Actually some people > > here cite potential floodings (?) as the reason to own an SUV.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I forgot one (kind of weather), too: Ice. When the cars are sliding > around > like two-ton billiard balls is no time to be on the roads atop a few > pounds > of bicycle. > > Cindy Hamilton I think some knee pads can help. But hey, public transportation is out there too. Here the heat can be extreme for many people, but cycling is better than walking. You get some breeze at least.
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock on 10 Aug 2010 16:17
On Aug 10, 11:09 am, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > On Aug 10, 6:29 pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Aug 9, 5:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 9, 10:42 am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...(a)yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > On Aug 8, 9:38 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the > > > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.ban...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 5, 7:59 am, Kenneth O'Brien <kob22...(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I do not care about training cyclists looking for fun, performance or > > > > > > > whatever on a bike. They don't care about others either. That's a > > > > > > > hobby. The revolution is for the SUB (Sport Utility Bike) > > > > > > > OK. But the commuting share isn't at whatever it is because 1 minus that number fraction of the public wouldn't DARE ride their bike on the road. There is a million and one things that add up to commute share. > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > Go around, and the reasons you will most likely find are: > > > > > > 1- It's too dangerous: FEAR (it may be a perception, but it's strong > > > > > enough to send most cyclists onto the sidewalks, thus rendering > > > > > cycling ineffective except for immigrant workers who can't afford a > > > > > car) > > > > > > 2- TOO FAR: You may combine it with public transportation or get > > > > > another job or move. > > > > > > 3- I WILL SWEAT: True, but then showers at work may be provided. Or > > > > > maybe you sweat at work anyway. > > > > > You forgot one: > > > > > 4. WEATHER: Snow. Slush. Sub-zero temperatures. > > > > Holland and Denmark don't have the best weather in the planet, but > > > they still do it. > > > > But, you are right, it can be cited as excuse. Actually some people > > > here cite potential floodings (?) as the reason to own an SUV.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > I forgot one (kind of weather), too: Ice. When the cars are sliding > > around > > like two-ton billiard balls is no time to be on the roads atop a few > > pounds > > of bicycle. > > > Cindy Hamilton- > > One of the problems in the UK is the poor state of our roads, > especially after this year's hard winter. There were potholes > everywhere, especially where commercial vehicles ran their nearside > wheels, which is about where you would like to cycle. > > Derek C I did 2.3 miles today on 16" Dahon. No big deal, but just for the record. On main road! I wore the bright vest with no shirt to help beat the heat. |