From: petrolcan on
In article <hadl6v$22b$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Fran says...
>
> > "petrolcan" <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > 1st class recorded delivery. Go look it up.
>
> ===
>
> Why on earth bother with Recorded Delivery for a widget that sold for a
> fiver? Sheer stupidity.

I saw the posting name and guessed the content of reply before reading.
I was right. Surprise, surprise.
From: petrolcan on
In article <ldtkc594i3mpq9p3do0sliohsito8odbdf(a)4ax.com>, Spacker says...
>
> petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> >> The Xbox box sellers also had a comment like that in the description.
> >> Please note you are bidding on the box only, no console is included.
> >> (this is from memory, but backed up by comments people made in the
> >> relevant threads from this group).
> >
> >Does your memory also recall that the xbox box sellers also listed all
> >that an xbox could do?
>
> In the item specifics section? I don't think that was as prominent in
> those days as it is now. Those tend to be auto-filled with items that
> can be identified from the category anyway. I sold something similar a
> few weeks ago and the only bit I had to change was the TV region.

In the item description text.

> >> >Here's the auction again:
> >> >
> >> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260480739582
> >> >
> >> >Now, if you really cannot see the difference, I cannot help explain any
> >> >more.
> >>
> >> Because there is no difference?
> >
> >Yes, there is.
>
> So why do you refuse to point out what this mysterious difference is?

I have done before and did so again with my reply just above.

> >> >> Charging £3 to post an empty box does not mean that the seller will
> >> >> pay £3 to post it either. So what? Charging an appropriate amount to
> >> >> post a box containing what the buyer would expect to be in the empty
> >> >> box is part of the deception.
> >> >
> >> >So now you are saying that they would be expecting an empty box as per
> >> >description.
> >>
> >> They would expect the box to contain the item they are lead to believe
> >> will be inside it.
> >
> >*sigh* The listing was quite clear.
>
> Only for people who got as far as the description, and presumably also
> only for people who understand English.

Well, at least now you admit that my listing was quite clear.

> How do you explain the winning
> bidder still thinking there was a camera inside the box if your
> listing was so clear?

This would be the winning bidder that emailed me immediatly after the
auction ended saying he made a mistake, the same buyer who called
themselves an idiot for making that mistake and the same buyer who in
further emails said, and I quote, "you listing was quite clear. Quite
happy to put this down to experience and laugh it off"

> How do you explain the person who bid £11 for it
> and then changed their mind?

Buyers aren't allowed to changed their mind now?

> Some of your other buyers have also stated that your listings are not
> very clear ...

You mean my most recent neg? That buyer was expecting something that was
not listed or pictured. He was a fuckwit.

> >> >> You said everyone over charges for postage and that buyers know they
> >> >> do. Nobody who didn't over charge for postage would make such a claim.
> >> >
> >> >You know full well I have never said such a thing. Why would you make
> >> >that up?
> >
> >You failed to answer this one.
>
> I didn't have time to find the post where you said it.

That's because I have never said such a thing.

> Are you going to deny that you charge for postage in free postage
> categories again?

I have never denied that I have done so on a few occassions.

> >> >> Was my guess of 150g correct?
> >> >
> >> >For the box itself? No. The box itself weighs approx 185g. The box it
> >> >would be posted in weighs approx 220g. Total of just over 400g.
> >> >Total postage cost of £2.89.
> >>
> >> Post office website says £1.85, or £1.04 if you flatpack it. Are they
> >> pretending?
> >
> >1st class recorded delivery. Go look it up.
>
> Why would you send worthless rubbish first class recorded? Were you
> expecting it to sell for more than £34 or something?

I send everything either 1st class recorded or special delivery.
From: The Older Gentleman on
petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> You mean my most recent neg? That buyer was expecting something that was
> not listed or pictured. He was a fuckwit.

Heh. You weren't selling an old Honda instrument console, were you?


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From: petrolcan on
In article <1j75pvq.193b74usmrvggN%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk>, The
Older Gentleman says...
>
> petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You mean my most recent neg? That buyer was expecting something that was
> > not listed or pictured. He was a fuckwit.
>
> Heh. You weren't selling an old Honda instrument console, were you?

A canon lens. Text described a lens and front lens cap. Picture showed a
lens and front lens cap.

Fuckwit then tries to get me to pay him so that he can buy the correct
rear lens cap that wasn't included.
From: The Older Gentleman on
petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <hadl6v$22b$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Fran says...
> >
> > > "petrolcan" <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > 1st class recorded delivery. Go look it up.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Why on earth bother with Recorded Delivery for a widget that sold for a
> > fiver? Sheer stupidity.
>
> I saw the posting name and guessed the content of reply before reading.
> I was right. Surprise, surprise.

It's not bright, is it? And it loves stirring stuff up.

If the buyer is paying for p&p, who cares what it costs?

And always using recorded delivery (or similar) is a good policy, IMHO.
Sooner or later something is going to go missing, and being able to wave
some sort of tracking form, recorded delivery form, whatever could
easily fend off a neg from an irritated buyer.

I know that there's Proof of Postage but my experience is that not all
buyers are actually aware of its existence. But *everyone* knows about
recorded delivery.


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