Zoidberg says it is OK to rip people off on ebay by selling empty boxes
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From: petrolcan on 6 Oct 2009 03:48 In article <hadl6v$22b$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Fran says... > > > "petrolcan" <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > 1st class recorded delivery. Go look it up. > > === > > Why on earth bother with Recorded Delivery for a widget that sold for a > fiver? Sheer stupidity. I saw the posting name and guessed the content of reply before reading. I was right. Surprise, surprise.
From: petrolcan on 6 Oct 2009 03:48 In article <ldtkc594i3mpq9p3do0sliohsito8odbdf(a)4ax.com>, Spacker says... > > petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Xbox box sellers also had a comment like that in the description. > >> Please note you are bidding on the box only, no console is included. > >> (this is from memory, but backed up by comments people made in the > >> relevant threads from this group). > > > >Does your memory also recall that the xbox box sellers also listed all > >that an xbox could do? > > In the item specifics section? I don't think that was as prominent in > those days as it is now. Those tend to be auto-filled with items that > can be identified from the category anyway. I sold something similar a > few weeks ago and the only bit I had to change was the TV region. In the item description text. > >> >Here's the auction again: > >> > > >> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260480739582 > >> > > >> >Now, if you really cannot see the difference, I cannot help explain any > >> >more. > >> > >> Because there is no difference? > > > >Yes, there is. > > So why do you refuse to point out what this mysterious difference is? I have done before and did so again with my reply just above. > >> >> Charging £3 to post an empty box does not mean that the seller will > >> >> pay £3 to post it either. So what? Charging an appropriate amount to > >> >> post a box containing what the buyer would expect to be in the empty > >> >> box is part of the deception. > >> > > >> >So now you are saying that they would be expecting an empty box as per > >> >description. > >> > >> They would expect the box to contain the item they are lead to believe > >> will be inside it. > > > >*sigh* The listing was quite clear. > > Only for people who got as far as the description, and presumably also > only for people who understand English. Well, at least now you admit that my listing was quite clear. > How do you explain the winning > bidder still thinking there was a camera inside the box if your > listing was so clear? This would be the winning bidder that emailed me immediatly after the auction ended saying he made a mistake, the same buyer who called themselves an idiot for making that mistake and the same buyer who in further emails said, and I quote, "you listing was quite clear. Quite happy to put this down to experience and laugh it off" > How do you explain the person who bid £11 for it > and then changed their mind? Buyers aren't allowed to changed their mind now? > Some of your other buyers have also stated that your listings are not > very clear ... You mean my most recent neg? That buyer was expecting something that was not listed or pictured. He was a fuckwit. > >> >> You said everyone over charges for postage and that buyers know they > >> >> do. Nobody who didn't over charge for postage would make such a claim. > >> > > >> >You know full well I have never said such a thing. Why would you make > >> >that up? > > > >You failed to answer this one. > > I didn't have time to find the post where you said it. That's because I have never said such a thing. > Are you going to deny that you charge for postage in free postage > categories again? I have never denied that I have done so on a few occassions. > >> >> Was my guess of 150g correct? > >> > > >> >For the box itself? No. The box itself weighs approx 185g. The box it > >> >would be posted in weighs approx 220g. Total of just over 400g. > >> >Total postage cost of £2.89. > >> > >> Post office website says £1.85, or £1.04 if you flatpack it. Are they > >> pretending? > > > >1st class recorded delivery. Go look it up. > > Why would you send worthless rubbish first class recorded? Were you > expecting it to sell for more than £34 or something? I send everything either 1st class recorded or special delivery.
From: The Older Gentleman on 6 Oct 2009 03:50 petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You mean my most recent neg? That buyer was expecting something that was > not listed or pictured. He was a fuckwit. Heh. You weren't selling an old Honda instrument console, were you? -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Triumph Street Triple Honda XBR500 CB400F SH50 MZ TS250 GHPOTHUF1 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom Nothing damages a machine more than an ignoramus with a manual, a can-do attitude and a set of cheap tools
From: petrolcan on 6 Oct 2009 03:54 In article <1j75pvq.193b74usmrvggN%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk>, The Older Gentleman says... > > petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > You mean my most recent neg? That buyer was expecting something that was > > not listed or pictured. He was a fuckwit. > > Heh. You weren't selling an old Honda instrument console, were you? A canon lens. Text described a lens and front lens cap. Picture showed a lens and front lens cap. Fuckwit then tries to get me to pay him so that he can buy the correct rear lens cap that wasn't included.
From: The Older Gentleman on 6 Oct 2009 03:56
petrolcan <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <hadl6v$22b$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Fran says... > > > > > "petrolcan" <petrolcanSPAM(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > 1st class recorded delivery. Go look it up. > > > > === > > > > Why on earth bother with Recorded Delivery for a widget that sold for a > > fiver? Sheer stupidity. > > I saw the posting name and guessed the content of reply before reading. > I was right. Surprise, surprise. It's not bright, is it? And it loves stirring stuff up. If the buyer is paying for p&p, who cares what it costs? And always using recorded delivery (or similar) is a good policy, IMHO. Sooner or later something is going to go missing, and being able to wave some sort of tracking form, recorded delivery form, whatever could easily fend off a neg from an irritated buyer. I know that there's Proof of Postage but my experience is that not all buyers are actually aware of its existence. But *everyone* knows about recorded delivery. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Triumph Street Triple Honda XBR500 CB400F SH50 MZ TS250 GHPOTHUF1 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom Nothing damages a machine more than an ignoramus with a manual, a can-do attitude and a set of cheap tools |