From: " RJ>" on 3 May 2007 23:01
Sometimes I think you could reduce your useage to zero,
and your utility bill would still double !
My telephone bill is $14.88 a month.
when all the mystery charges, fees and taxes are added on,
it's closer to $29
Same for my gas bill. ( heating and hot water )
Actual gas used $18
Total gas bill $42
From: s on 4 May 2007 09:37
On May 3, 5:36 pm, pc <p...(a)somewhere.com> wrote:
> s wrote:
> > On May 3, 1:22 am, Anthony Matonak
> > <anthony...(a)nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >> s wrote:
> >>>> How do you cook? Gas?
> >>> Yes, gas.
> >> You should be aware that most gas ovens use glow bars. These are
> >> electric heater elements that run into hundreds of watts and remain
> >> on during the entire period the oven is turned on.
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > No, mine does not. I checked my stove. There are no wires going into
> > or coming out of it.
> >> You can also purchase a kill-a-watt meter to see what each
> >> appliance, like a fridge, might be using. It'll record the
> >> total kWh used over a period of time.
> > I will do that.
> >> You might also look for non-obvious electric stuff. Doorbell
> >> transformers, porch lights, coffee machines, microwave ovens,
> >> cordless phones, emergency lights, fire alarms, CO alarms,
> >> anything with a timer, remote control or transformer (wall wart).
> > No doorbell, porch lights, coffee machines, microwave ovens,
> > cordless phones, emergency lights, fire alarms, CO alarms,
> > anything with a timer, remote control or transformer (wall wart).
> > Just a smoke alarm which runs by battery and my cell phone I charge at
> > work place or library outlet.
> > Thanks for your aid and time.
> >> Anthony >
> Below is information on how you can contact your utility, in
> Tallahassee, to request a free home energy audit. Hope it helps.
> > The best way to reduce your utility bill is to reduce the amount of
> electricity and water you use. Your Own Utilities provides free energy
> audits of both homes and commercial buildings, as well as other energy
> conservation programs.
> > Request a free energy audit. Make sure to have your account number
> handy. It is required to submit an online request.
> > You can also call Energy Services at 891-4YOU (4968), then press 42,
> for more information.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks a lot.
I already did that the day I moved in .The trouble is lot of people
want it in the area
so it takes about 8 weeks from the day you request to get it done. I
moved on about 3/22/2007. So, I have to wait 8 weeks
from that. I have been regularly in touch with them and they have sent
me documents on how to reduce bills during
winter and summer. The main issue is bad equipment(fridge,water
heater). I believe the A.C. and room heaters should be
equally bad if not worse. They are consuming thrice the energy energy
efficient equipment should be using. Bad
insulation all over the house is another factor which will impact me
in winter and summer.
One question I had was will using a surge protector impact the bills?
And does leaving the surge protector in the socket
turned off consume power? I don't have it which is careless of me but
was planning to get it but now am hesitant due
to my high bills. I understand for equipments like laptop that is
Thanks for your help and time
From: s on 4 May 2007 09:38
On May 3, 5:39 pm, pc <p...(a)somewhere.com> wrote:
> s wrote:
> >> You didn't mention what's heating your water either - is it an electric
> >> water heater? That's about the most expensive way to do it.
> > I have to ascertain that. It was too dark when I got home tonight at
> > 9pm to find out.
> If you don't pay a natural gas bill, an oil or propane bill, or see
> solar panels on your roof..you are heating your water with electric.
It is an electric heater. My utility office told me and I also
Thanks for your help and time.
From: s on 4 May 2007 09:43
On May 3, 8:51 pm, "Lou" <lpogodajr292...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> "s" <s...(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message
> > Well, my neighbour's water usage is 20 gallons per month and there are
> > two people in his home and he cooks a lot more than me. This is what
> > made me think something is wrong.
> 20 GALLONS A MONTH???!!!!??? I find that hard to believe. Look at it this
> way. If you have a low flow shower head, one that delivers say 2.5 gallons
> a minute, and you took one shower a day, and each shower lasted exactly one
> minute, and the month under consideration is 30 days long, you'd use 2.5
> gallons/day X 30 days/month = 75 gallons/month even if you never flushed a
> toilet or had a drink of water from the tap or brushed your teeth. If you
> have an older toilet and flush it once a day, you'd use around 150 to 180
> gallons of water a month. Make it a brand spanking new low volume toilet
> and flush it once a day and you'd use around 1.6 gallons a day, or 48
> gallons a month.
> That comes to 123 gallons a month for minimal daily use of shower and
> toilet. I don't think I'd care to use that neighbor's bathroom if I were to
> drop by for a visit.
> There are lower flow shower heads than 2.5 gllons a minute, and there are
> sponge baths, so it's possible to cut this number, perhaps substanstially.
> But 20 gallons of water a month for an apartment dweller or homeowner in the
> US in the last few months? Except maybe in some extrordinary circumstances,
> like an outhouse and bathe in the local stream, I strongly doubt it.
> I think something's wrong with these numbers too - 20 gallons a month is
> hardly credible.
Apologies, as I clarified when I posted incorrectly right after this
wrong post(Someone else was surprised too). It is 2000 gallons per
month. Our city mentions numbers in units of 100 gallons.
It was 20*100 = 2000 gallons.
But, there are households using 1500 gallons per month with two people
living in them and cooking a lot.
There is a indeed huge leakage in my house.
I am sorry for the confusion.
Thanks for your help.
From: s on 4 May 2007 09:48
On May 3, 11:01 pm, "<RJ>" <baran...(a)localnet.com> wrote:
> Sometimes I think you could reduce your useage to zero,
> and your utility bill would still double !
> My telephone bill is $14.88 a month.
> when all the mystery charges, fees and taxes are added on,
> it's closer to $29
Agreed, but they(mystery charges, fees and taxes) should be equal for
all. If I am charged lot more
than some household who use far less than me then either someone is
tapping into my water/electric usage
or there is a large leakage.
There are no taxes I checked with them(Utility company).
> Same for my gas bill. ( heating and hot water )
> Actual gas used $18
> Total gas bill $42
I would suggest you also attempt to find out why is that so? It looks
you are a similar case like me.
Thanks for your reply.