From: sr on
There seems to be so many survival suggestions, and techniques, how to do
much with little to do with,
made for an interesting group.
Wish I had the money I spent on mobil solar panels, crank up radios, etc.
That I really never
figured out. Than again, if cap and trade goes through, ---- guess I'll
hang on to the stuff
a little longer, now that I think about it.


From: Al on
On Oct 17, 3:54 pm, "sr" <solo...(a)uninets.net> wrote:
> There seems to be so many survival suggestions, and techniques, how to do
> much with little to do with,
> made for an interesting group.
> Wish I had the money I spent on mobil solar panels, crank up radios, etc.
> That I really never
> figured out. Than again, if cap and trade goes through, ---- guess I'll
> hang on to the stuff
> a little longer, now that I think about it.

I'm sure many here were here back then. It seems like yesterday.
Frugal tips are always welcome here. If you had trouble figuring out a
crank up radio, you are not made for survival.
The crank up flashlights I see from China use a NiCad battery that is
charged with the cranking. NiCads have a limited lifespan so the light
won't work when it expires. Lately, the Chinese are using high density
capacitors to hold a charge and they should last almost forever. With
just a 30' charge, they can power a small model plane for a decent
flight. Maybe we need a new crisis to highlight some of these simple
technologies.
From: The Real Bev on
Al wrote:

> On Oct 17, 3:54 pm, "sr" <solo...(a)uninets.net> wrote:
>
>> There seems to be so many survival suggestions, and techniques, how to do
>> much with little to do with, made for an interesting group. Wish I had the
>> money I spent on mobil solar panels, crank up radios, etc. That I really
>> never figured out. Than again, if cap and trade goes through, ---- guess
>> I'll hang on to the stuff a little longer, now that I think about it.
>
> I'm sure many here were here back then. It seems like yesterday. Frugal tips
> are always welcome here. If you had trouble figuring out a crank up radio,
> you are not made for survival. The crank up flashlights I see from China use
> a NiCad battery that is charged with the cranking.

The 4 smallish ones that we bought from Costco are all dead. One produces
light only while cranking, not all that practical a solution. I remember
reading somewhere that you could take them apart and replace the capacitor with
a bigger/better one, but that was several years ago.

OTOH, the big 4-year-old Sharper Image pistol-grip rechargeable flashlight
which gets only occasional use has needed to be recharged (AC, they warn to NOT
use the crank unless it's a real emergency) only once a year or so. A pleasant
surprise.

> NiCads have a limited lifespan so the light won't work when it expires.
> Lately, the Chinese are using high density capacitors to hold a charge and
> they should last almost forever. With just a 30' charge, they can power a
> small model plane for a decent flight. Maybe we need a new crisis to
> highlight some of these simple technologies.

Unlikely that a new crisis would help. Katrina presented an interesting new
crisis which seemed to generate more whining and dependency than simple and
practical solutions.

--
Cheers, Bev
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
I bought a tape called "Subliminal Advertising"
The next day I bought 47 more.
From: sr on
I think that storing these items in the cellar didn't help any. They were
working when new,
not now, after 10 years. Never did hitch up the solar panel, battery still
in the box. Means
another trip to the recycling ctr. My Ace in the Hole was my neighbor, on
the hill,. that
has a mechanical brain. Since I can make a good loaf of bread for his
comsumption, I
believe I was all set. There's more than one way to survive.

When you live in Maine, it's all about survival, no choice.
I had a better chance of survival than those living in cubicals.

I was sucker enough to buy the flashlights that took a shaking to light them
up.
But, only after the price came down from 19. to 5 at the liquidation ct.


"Al" <albundy2(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 17, 3:54 pm, "sr" <solo...(a)uninets.net> wrote:
>> There seems to be so many survival suggestions, and techniques, how to do
>> much with little to do with,
>> made for an interesting group.
>> Wish I had the money I spent on mobil solar panels, crank up radios, etc.
>> That I really never
>> figured out. Than again, if cap and trade goes through, ---- guess I'll
>> hang on to the stuff
>> a little longer, now that I think about it.
>
> I'm sure many here were here back then. It seems like yesterday.
> Frugal tips are always welcome here. If you had trouble figuring out a
> crank up radio, you are not made for survival.
> The crank up flashlights I see from China use a NiCad battery that is
> charged with the cranking. NiCads have a limited lifespan so the light
> won't work when it expires. Lately, the Chinese are using high density
> capacitors to hold a charge and they should last almost forever. With
> just a 30' charge, they can power a small model plane for a decent
> flight. Maybe we need a new crisis to highlight some of these simple
> technologies.


From: sr on

"Al" <albundy2(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message
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>
It's always about the battery, isn't it. Solar would be so much further
along if
there were a better solution to the storage. Once the storage problem is
solved-
hope
I live long enough for the experience.
I see there is even a solar refection (paint)
If you are interested in solar, there is a fellow that has to move to Wales
to set up
his manufacturing plant for his solar product. Too many regualtions in U.S.
Seem that the other countries are so far ahead of us in that respect. Sad.
Regulation s kill the innovative part of the human spirit.

But, I've been through this before with the Jimmy Carter ADM. Nothing
became of it
when oil got plentiful once again to us peons. Things go in cycle, if you
live long enough
you'll see history repeating itself, but to the young, its the first time,
to us old people, we
say "here we go again"
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> I'm sure many here were here back then. It seems like yesterday.
> Frugal tips are always welcome here. If you had trouble figuring out a
> crank up radio, you are not made for survival.
> The crank up flashlights I see from China use a NiCad battery that is
> charged with the cranking. NiCads have a limited lifespan so the light
> won't work when it expires. Lately, the Chinese are using high density
> capacitors to hold a charge and they should last almost forever. With
> just a 30' charge, they can power a small model plane for a decent
> flight. Maybe we need a new crisis to highlight some of these simple
> technologies.